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Saucepan

Your post is interesting in how you seem eager to spend your money on a course, to learn some theoory about plumbing. The internet world is full of theory about plumbing - learn it for free.

You have other alternatives, such as joining a professional body as a student member and going to technical evenings - CIPHE.

However, I feel it a shame that our technical training system cannot cater for you. You have skills and knowledge that could be extended by good quality technical training for 'experienced' operatives - instead you are faced with joining training that is designed for novice jobbers or school kid preparatory courses.

It is also ironic, that the whole point of NVQs was to bring flexible qualifications and eradication of time serving with its inherent demarcation for different trades. Yet 30 years-in, we still have no sign of qualifications which are suitable for those that already have relevant technical knowledge.

I think with your skill set, a plumbing enhancement will bode well for future renewable markets, but this will be as oversupplied as the plumbing and gas market.

My advice would be to move into management, because you have relevant experience and there is a skill shortate (publicised by the summitskills sector implemetation strategy). Note, all these plumbers and electricians willing to work for free or minimum wage, now need organising - think AA, homeserve, RAC, Tesco etc offering contract or insurance policies.

Installation is clearly for minimum wage occupations, so avoid this by heading for supervisor roles and qualifications. Especially that your skill-set will be in demand at some stage in the near future with the green deal.
 
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Saucepan

Your post is interesting in how you seem eager to spend your money on a course, to learn some theoory about plumbing. The internet world is full of theory about plumbing - learn it for free.

You have other alternatives, such as joining a professional body as a student member and going to technical evenings - CIPHE.

However, I feel it a shame that our technical training system cannot cater for you. You have skills and knowledge that could be extended by good quality technical training for 'experienced' operatives - instead you are faced with joining training that is designed for novice jobbers or school kid preparatory courses.

It is also ironic, that the whole point of NVQs was to bring flexible qualifications and eradication of time serving with its inherent demarcation for different trades. Yet 30 years-in, we still have no sign of qualifications which are suitable for those that already have relevant technical knowledge.

I think with your skill set, a plumbing enhancement will bode well for future renewable markets, but this will be as oversupplied as the plumbing and gas market.

My advice would be to move into management, because you have relevant experience and there is a skill shortate (publicised by the summitskills sector implemetation strategy). Note, all these plumbers and electricians willing to work for free or minimum wage, now need organising - think AA, homeserve, RAC, Tesco etc offering contract or insurance policies.

Installation is clearly for minimum wage occupations, so avoid this by heading for supervisor roles and qualifications. Especially that your skill-set will be in demand at some stage in the near future with the green deal.

Clanger, the college courses are not theory only, not sure were you have got this information from

The QCF NVQ's are available on a modular basis so will recognise prior learning and units mapped across from other qualifications. And if a candidate has 5 years plus experience they can take the direct access route.

Sorry if this looks like Im trying to be picky but a few of your points are incorrect and require clarity for people reading

Fuzzy
 
Clanger, the college courses are not theory only, not sure were you have got this information from

The QCF NVQ's are available on a modular basis so will recognise prior learning and units mapped across from other qualifications. And if a candidate has 5 years plus experience they can take the direct access route.

Sorry if this looks like Im trying to be picky but a few of your points are incorrect and require clarity for people reading

Fuzzy
Can I just ask want evidence would be required for the 5 year plus experience, would they have to take a trade skills entry test or just turn up & be old enough ??
Even if this route does exist (just like it did for the 6089) do you know any college's that actually runs this route, access may be one thing, what happens in practise quite another !!!!
 
Can I just ask want evidence would be required for the 5 year plus experience, would they have to take a trade skills entry test or just turn up & be old enough ??
Even if this route does exist (just like it did for the 6089) do you know any college's that actually runs this route, access may be one thing, what happens in practise quite another !!!!


A CV, references etc. its not difficult to get evidence and the assessor has to make a professional judgement, the external verifier is there to support if your not sure what to ask for

Im not entirely sure if the 6189 has the same options as the outgoing 6089 NVQ but I know quite a few who took this option with success.
 
Hi guys,
I am an electrician 4 years and like most other people I am struggling for work. I have been fitting solar PV panels for the last 2 years but as you're probably aware, the backside has fallen out of the market. I am considering a plumbing course to try and get into other renewable energy technologies - Solar thermal etc.

So what would you like to know that has not been said in answer to the OP on this thread ?
 

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