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vern
Then Graham's jumped in bed with Ideal and the Europa was born lol
Ray are all heatlines made by Vaillant?
Ray are all heatlines made by Vaillant?
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Rickster123
Biasi? I think they know they're gash.
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tamz
Its just a job to a salesman. They will talk up any pysh that pays the bills.
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vern
Yeah Bradford and Glasgow got amalgamated Tom with another depot from the South I think, new team came in and it's never been back, excel's Linea's, option's, compacts, we fitted hundreds!
Funny thing is whenever you attend one it was always fitted by the previous owners, even the customers are embarrassed that they've got one!
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tamz
Now i take out at least 2 a week Vern. I think the last ones i fitted were the late 90's probably maxins and mynutes. After that they were junk and stopped fitting them.
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Rickster123
Abit like halstead finest combi boilers. Nobody takes responsibility!
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vern
Lol yep I do a few, forgot about the mynutes system boilers yep loads, mums and sisters still going lol 35 kw one, Maxins were junk fitted a few never gelled with them all pipes didn't even follow the Vokera format, probably bought in and re badged?
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Ray Stafford
No. They are all made by Demirdokum, a Turkish manufacturer owned by Vaiilant GmbH, the German parent. Demirdokum used to be DD Heating in the UK.
They also make the cheaper models in the Glowworm range like beta com and easicom.
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vern
Nice one Ray, thought I had seen the family parts bin lol
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Ray Stafford
Here's a thought.
The day I started, back in the mid eighties, we had a special offer on a chaffoteaux 220rs with flue and switchmaster 300 for £465 plus vat
Today we sell the ideal independent with flue and clock for a few quid less
28 yrs later!
The day I started, back in the mid eighties, we had a special offer on a chaffoteaux 220rs with flue and switchmaster 300 for £465 plus vat
Today we sell the ideal independent with flue and clock for a few quid less
28 yrs later!
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vern
Absolute class Ray the case was blue Glass too, everyone jumped on them because of the reputation of the chaff brittony MPWH
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Ray Stafford
I don't think vokera ever made a boiler. When Claudio owned it, he would design the boiler and subcontract manufacture out. I think Riallo did some of it. He was a real hard case, and if he had specced a 5mm clip and they tried to palm him off with 4.9mm he would scream blue murder. He knew those boilers inside out.
After he sold it, it was just a brand name.
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tamz
The f & R valves common to all vaillant group. Probably good quality but i hate them.
Never really liked any glow worm...ever. Didn't like worcesters around the early 2000's. Fitted a few ideal whats it called (condensers before the isars came out) pysh. Tried responses, big mistake, tried kestons because i liked the flueing... shyte, microcombi's , ok budgets not many problems, alphas, leak like a seive, modenas, turned ut to be probably the best boiler they made, maxins used to stick on the gas valve around 3 month old , strip it and blow through backwards and it worked forever, stopped fitting baxi after they brought out the 80 combi pysh.
Thinking about it my main boilers i fitted since i started working
Cast iron
ideals
baxi
potterton
glow worm
light weights
ideal
glow worm
combi
worcester
ideal (what was that big brown thing called apart from oh no not one of these)
vokera
glow worm
alpha
ariston
potterton
and probably the odd one off here and there
Not a wide range really over 39 years
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tamz
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Ray Stafford
We had the Vokera 20-80 RS turbo in 1986 at well over £500. They even had a condensing model, the CORSE. about 900 notes. Funny the things you remember.
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tamz
I remember the condensing thing they ha but couldn't remember the name of it. No one bought them anyway.
I fitted a scheme of houses (in Stirling) with condensers in the 80's as part of a BG (when they were still a decent company to sub to) test thing.
Can't remember the name of them but Grahams shipped them.
They were shipped in from ireland, used 1 1/12" pipe for the flues (2 separates). Nearly every boiler we fitted was off balance and some guy from the manu had to come out to fix them.
I did a job for a guy about 2 years ago who had one and he reminded me of the name but i've forgotten.
Dragging the memories now Ray :lol:
I fitted a scheme of houses (in Stirling) with condensers in the 80's as part of a BG (when they were still a decent company to sub to) test thing.
Can't remember the name of them but Grahams shipped them.
They were shipped in from ireland, used 1 1/12" pipe for the flues (2 separates). Nearly every boiler we fitted was off balance and some guy from the manu had to come out to fix them.
I did a job for a guy about 2 years ago who had one and he reminded me of the name but i've forgotten.
Dragging the memories now Ray :lol:
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vern
Buretta sp? Made the early ones then Riello the later ones
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tamz
What a mistake that turned out to be :smile:
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vern
Ideals Tom big brown ideal turbo, with a fan at bottom of sump? What about minimiser, response lol utter pysh
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vern
Pump hose blocking, fans sticking, no modulation 3 solonoids for high or low pysh
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vern
Haha Tom you mean ideal sprint, BF or fanned
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tamz
Aye the turbo. Another heap of shyte :lol:
I took a response out on Wednesday Vern. Surprised it lasted so long. I actually specced them for 12 houses around 2000. I'm ashamed to show my face on that street :lol:
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vern
Me too a 120 that was feked, if I ever get that rep lol, we fitted 10 after a breakfast morning with rep, we went back to them all, as ideal were not responding to their response, probes, spark gens, PCB's, banging boilers awful
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tamz
I must have gone to the same sales speel because i thought 120 that will do fine......then the bstd had the cheek to come back a couple of yeas later and say we have this new boiler called the isar that is the dogs balls :lol:
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vern
Bring back the Mexico and classics with perm pilots, I could mend them with just my 24's
i think the first combi we fitted was a vaillant sine 18 think it cost around the £800 mark
we fitted it and then couldnt get the heating to fill we had assumed that as it had a main going in to it it would fill automaticly
little did we realise we were starting the decline of the heating game
we fitted it and then couldnt get the heating to fill we had assumed that as it had a main going in to it it would fill automaticly
little did we realise we were starting the decline of the heating game
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vern
lol correct Steve, it would have been a Sine Mag 18, I remember going to the first one I had ever seen, asking the custard WTF! where's the cylinder?
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vern
Sorry pal words x 3......ELM LE Blanc, they made a Saunier Duval flow reversing valve swap look easy!
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tamz
First combi i can remember seeing was a worcester in the late 70's. Can't remember much about it or what model it was. It was a floor stander and looked like a hw cyl with a burner under it.
I never paid it too much attention as i was only there fitting a new bathroom.
I never paid it too much attention as i was only there fitting a new bathroom.
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kay-jay
Anything that has died and needs replacing.....
ideal logic + is my choice
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