gas cooker

[gaspastemania]

o.k so on re-connection your surely breaking into the gas supply which is deemed as gas work??
How does that equate ?
Cust cant take boiler cover off for e.g as its classified as gas work by gsr but has not broke into a gas supply yet can push a fitting into a live gas supply ,,,,,,,one word 'joke'

 

[tamz]

A gas poker may be a better example of something that is plugged in and out of a bayonet fitting a lot more regularly than a cooker hose.
Imagine having to phone a gas guy every time you lit the fire.

 

[gaspastemania]

What am getting at is hypocracy of it all , your basically being told you can plug into bayonette yet cant be trusted to ptfe cooker hose , test,gas,rate etc etc etc ,yet can put all pipe work in , do boilers , do service on fire , open flued appliances ,ventilation blah blah blah but incompetent to ptfe a cooker hose because dont have a licence !!

 

[fuzzy]

Dont you have to be gsr to do this anyway??

not to disconnect a cooker, not classed as 'work'

 

[fuzzy]

You can do hobs without cookers , your basically tho installing a cooker if your connecting hose to bayonette, so an owner will be doing illegal work

if a customer disconnects, cleans behind and re connects they have done nothing wrong

 

[REDSAW]

i suggest this conversation taken over to the gas safe forum where all are invited, providing you are registered?.

 

[fuzzy]

you sure redsaw? we are debating who can do it, if anyone can disconnect a cooker why should it be offered only to gsr?

 

[gaspastemania]

not saying they have but saying the hypocracy of it all

 

[fuzzy]

i dont see it hypocritical

 

[gaspastemania]

I do think its ridiculous that they are basically saying that your capable at everything else for e.g but you dont have a cooker cert they are saying your not capable of ptfe'ing a hose !!
Mi's will tell you about ventilation /clearances plus you do ventilation on your ccn1 , failing that just blast a 4 inch core througf the wall .

 

[fuzzy]

many things have these type connectors, consider lpg heaters, cookers etc, no gsr required, we would ruin many camping expeditions if it were

 

[gaspastemania]

well thats what i am saying is the hypocracy of it all , they can disconnect a cooker yet not allowed to take a boiler casing off as removing a boiler cover is classed as gas work and you need to be gsr registered .
As for ptfe the hose to cooker thats a joke in its own right !1

 

[REDSAW]

well thats what i am saying is the hypocracy of it all , they can disconnect a cooker yet not allowed to take a boiler casing off as removing a boiler cover is classed as gas work and you need to be gsr registered .
As for ptfe the hose to cooker thats a joke in its own right !1

of course it is. who says if its a positive pressure boiler or not, and ptfe is ptfe, just slap it on?.

 

[fuzzy]

if the current system isnt correct or is hypocritical, what isnt? where do you suggest the line is drawn then?

 

[gaspastemania]

Well a line is never going to be drawn as its all about money as per usual bpec gas safe etc .

 

[kirkgas]

i think you will find mate that wats been said earlier is correct and is only temporary, sure when i done my gas it said if it was being left for any length of time after 24 hours it has to be permenently capped

a properly fitted and not leaking bayonet can be left as a permanent point of disconnection, there is NO timescale for a disconnection, as there is no temporary gas work, it is either acceptable to disconnect it or it isnt acceptable, having a timescale on it doent make sense

 

[kirkgas]

No need to look into it had it straight from gas safe as already asked in the past , hob on rigid pipework .

sorry but that is not the case and i would suggest a wee phone call to GSR tomorrow to confirm the confusion of your last conversation, as i can state 100% you MUST have CKR1 to fit a hob

 

[kirkgas]

you sure redsaw? we are debating who can do it, if anyone can disconnect a cooker why should it be offered only to gsr?

part of the conversations might be about who can and cannot disconnect a hose and bayonet, but we also have comments about people fitting hobs with only CCN1 which is wrong and will only create havoc for those reading it and should be taken to the gas only section, as it isnt very professional to have GSR's debating what quals you need to fit a hob

 

[dontknowitall]

All this confusion just shows how bureaucratic we've become in this country.

Seems to me that good old fashioned common sense has been left far behind.

 

[kirkgas]

Well a line is never going to be drawn as its all about money as per usual bpec gas safe etc .

i dont follow your logic saying you dont need CKR1 to fit hobs to solid pipe (and i bet you dont have an email confirming this, and i bet you even more you cant get one tomorrow) as you can read about clearances and ventilation in the MI, do you have HTR1 or do you connect fires to rigid pipe and read about ventilation in the MI's