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Similarly a car could pass an MOT, owner then drives off garage premises onto highway in front of police car, stops at next junction and no brake lights working and gets a ticket. Yet it passed 10 mins previously!
 
I leave printouts with every job I do with the fga, even its a 3min tightness test i use it for couple reasons , mainly for arse covering and proof of results but also because it looks professional, it looks even better when you hook fga to software on laptop and get the proper a4 testo printout,
Also when you return to that job in a year or 2s time you've readings saved on your machine that you can compare with new ones,
But it doesnt record that you had the hose pinched.
 
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Feel for you on this as I know where your coming from. I am not gas safe registered but look after a number of GS engineers for my company (Team leader). Since getting the job I have learnt huge amounts of the GS regulations and how it all works. We have had a numbers of engineers put through the ringer for stuff they did not do or miss, I have come to one conclusion with Gas. You fine until something goes wrong, and when It does go wrong regardless of fault your going to get screwed.

Companies seem so scared of Gas Safe they have to blame some one to show it won't happen again.

We recently had a very similar incident. Gas safe wanted blood even though the engineer did nothing wrong.
 
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Raises a question in my mind that do
Electronic printout tightness tests carry anymore weight than just being honest and jotting it down...

In other words would we still be having this conversation if it was printed out.

A question I ponder to myself on different occasions as I loath using the kane for TT and prefer the U - but I am mindful of the shortcomings when you may need proof.....
 
Guys thanks for all the reply's, not sure why but I have responded to several of you'r posts but my responses are not showing up. I did notice something about posts having to be checked by a moderator before they show up?
 
All your posts have been passed, there's nothing currently in the moderation queue.

You may not have been signed in in which case they would have been rejected.
 
It's not until your in this situation that you appreciate the worry it causes. No one likes to be under investigation. The investigation has to be done properly. You are innocent till proven guilty. Question the investigation technic and the credentials of those taking the investigation.
 
It's not until your in this situation that you appreciate the worry it causes. No one likes to be under investigation. The investigation has to be done properly. You are innocent till proven guilty. Question the investigation technic and the credentials of those taking the investigation.

Its the other way round, guilty until proven innocent. Even before the investigation started the company sent a letter with allegations of not following procedure and not completing tightness test. The investigation was a joke, didn't visit the property or speak to the customer, just went by pictures.

As I said they cant prove I did anything wrong, there's no evidence but it just seems that if a gas leak occurs regardless of the circumstance you will be punished. I'm going to appeal it for all the good it will do. I asked them when they gave me the warning what exactly are they warning me to do, or not to do in future since I followed all the procedures but they had no answer.
 
Why did they call national grid
And not the company you work for?

I always leave my number but the customer was out, it was his sister who called national grid, she got the number for gas emergency. The customer actually apologized to me for the fact that she didn't call me.
 
Where is the pipe positioned i.e. is it exposed to say a wheelchair hitting it?
Nope, about two foot above a worktop in the kitchen. All the pipe work was completed and the boiler was on when I did the tightness test, only thing I did after was fit the flue and the flue hole was already there so no drilling and the condense. Oh and putting the case on the boiler. Maybe one of these things disturbed the pipe but I don't see how.

National grid were not called until 21 hours after I recorded the test, and they recorded a full drop. Seems a long time for a leak of that size to go unnoticed. Plus who knows if the customer damaged the pipe during that time. Dont see why I should get a warning on the assumption that I disturbed it.
 
Danja, just by the description you've given I can tell who you work for. I was a TU rep for a couple of years with them.

You could argue until you were blue in the face and they wouldn't give a monkeys, you will always be at fault. They want someone to blame for the escape and it will always be the engineer. They say your Ipad readings are used to protect you, are they heck, they protect the company.

A written warning only lasts 12 months, just be sure you always cover your back.

The sniffers for your Anton are available on the tools catalogue, why you don't have one is beyond me. Accidentally order one lol!
 
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