Gas leak help

[REDSAW]

thought the procedure was verbal before written?

 

[Gray0689]

Depends on severity of incident
Can go straight to dismissal for gross misconduct

 

[danja]

Danja, just by the description you've given I can tell who you work for. I was a TU rep for a couple of years with them.

You could argue until you were blue in the face and they wouldn't give a monkeys, you will always be at fault. They want someone to blame for the escape and it will always be the engineer. They say your Ipad readings are used to protect you, are they heck, they protect the company.

A written warning only lasts 12 months, just be sure you always cover your back.

The sniffers for your Anton are available on the tools catalogue, why you don't have one is beyond me. Accidentally order one lol!

yup, that's pretty much the way of it. The national union rep is appealing it, the disciplinary procedure is to improve behavior not to punish people, they can't even tell my what I did wrong, they admit I followed all the procedures so there is no bad behavior to improve. This is reflected in the fact that I got a 6 month written warning, every other gas leak I've known of recently has been a final written warning for 18 months. Think I will have to order the sniffer just for extra peace of mind.

 

[Reg Man]

Even this is a bit harsh. Little evidence poor investigation and no conclusion on what the leak was caused by.

 

[bigads28]

yup, that's pretty much the way of it. The national union rep is appealing it, the disciplinary procedure is to improve behavior not to punish people, they can't even tell my what I did wrong, they admit I followed all the procedures so there is no bad behavior to improve. This is reflected in the fact that I got a 6 month written warning, every other gas leak I've known of recently has been a final written warning for 18 months. Think I will have to order the sniffer just for extra peace of mind.

They need to have a cause and outcome to a reported escape, they will never say they are at fault. Business Integrity would go to court before they say it's us!!

If they say you've followed all procedures then how the heck can you improve or change behaviours???

 

[danja]

They need to have a cause and outcome to a reported escape, they will never say they are at fault. Business Integrity would go to court before they say it's us!!

If they say you've followed all procedures then how the heck can you improve or change behaviours???

Well that's the grounds for appeal, the warning is punitive which is not allowed. I doubt they will go back on the warning though.

 

[Millsy 82]

We are not allowed to, fga is for combustion tests only. We do a tightness test and record on our company ipad. It logs the time of the test.

I would ignore them on that if they are going to be like that. I would use it and then print it out if they argue say that you are A) covering yourself and B) covering the company. How can they then argue with that.

 

[danja]

I would ignore them on that if they are going to be like that. I would use it and then print it out if they argue say that you are A) covering yourself and B) covering the company. How can they then argue with that.

Yes mate, I will do that. They have now accepted that i did the tightness test but have still given me a warning. Can't win.

 

[kay-jay]

Raises a question in my mind that do
Electronic printout tightness tests carry anymore weight than just being honest and jotting it down...

In other words would we still be having this conversation if it was printed out.

A question I ponder to myself on different occasions as I loath using the kane for TT and prefer the U - but I am mindful of the shortcomings when you may need proof.....

On the local ha district the engineers put a sticker on the meter with date and time of test 1 before work begins and test two after the work and the tenant has to sign that they have witnessed 2 tt and the results are the same.

Cant argue with that[emoji3]

 

[danja]

Well my appeal hearing is for Tuesday this week, I will let you all know how it goes.

Thanks for all the replies fellas.

 

[newcastle phill]

Good luck

 

[buckley plumb]

had similar a few wks ago did a gas cert and found major drop - removed boards and found nailed pipe -repaired that and and the 1st piece of pipe and meter union off the meter . I did a tightness test an all ok . got a call 3 wks later off landlord saying customer smels gas and called Transco who capped meter and replaced regulator and flexi due to leak . that engineer slagged me off to the customer . it was tight when I left it -apparently engineer said there was a small pin hole in the flexi stainless pipe . I assume the pipe was knocked when the tenant put stuff back in cupboard and disturbed the flexi - like an mot on a car its only falied at the time it was done

 

[Ermintrude]

Flux will rot out flex over time. 1 day if lots and hot.

 

[deandive]

had similar a few wks ago did a gas cert and found major drop - removed boards and found nailed pipe -repaired that and and the 1st piece of pipe and meter union off the meter . I did a tightness test an all ok . got a call 3 wks later off landlord saying customer smels gas and called Transco who capped meter and replaced regulator and flexi due to leak . that engineer slagged me off to the customer . it was tight when I left it -apparently engineer said there was a small pin hole in the flexi stainless pipe . I assume the pipe was knocked when the tenant put stuff back in cupboard and disturbed the flexi - like an mot on a car its only falied at the time it was done

I had a very similar situation fitted a combi boiler to a HA property to replace an unvented system, when I connected onto the plastic hot feed for the bathroom an exixting joint failed, the resultant leak did not endear me to the tennant. when it came time to tt at the end of the job, the tennnt had piled all her junk in the cupboard and was most unimpressed when I told her I needed access. I finished up and left. two days later I get told by my manager the tennant had called out Wales and west as she could smell gas, she had informed them that the engineer had confirmed a gas leak and she wanted compensation for all her anguish! Cue me having a proper panic, turns out when my manager visited the property there was a brand new annaconda and paperwork confirming the old one had been damaged mechanically, no doubt by her ramming her junk in there.