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Seen that plenty on mains renewals
do you think that may have been done by National Grid, I haven't seen it before they have always been flexible,
Well it look like it used to sit on the wood and now it's on a mtr bracket. The outlet is lead so they have brought the main in and hooked the mtr back up to the lead ( saves time and money ) ps those governors have had a few issues so watch out for them
They will be coming back on Monday, to make this good, lead will be removed ( all 1 metre of it) the meter bracket isn't fixed to wall, definitely not impressed if this was a proffessional job.
the property is empty, I only went in to isolate services whilst it's refurbed.
the property is empty, I only went in to isolate services whilst it's refurbed.
this is a meter fitted by a electrical meter fitter that has been retrained to also change gas meters i would think.
all the big suppliers are doing this now, my mate works for one changing gas meters. He is an experienced gas engineer but he says there are lots of electrical meter fitter that have done 3 months training and are left to change gas meters. Its because the smart meters need both trades and they only want to send one person.
My mate has been trained to change electrical meters, so its working both ways. He tells me all the time about gas leaks and big mistakes some of these electrical meter fitters make on gas meter installs. Most cant solder properly. Personally i would want somebody changing my gas or electrical meter to have some level of experience not 3 months.
all the big suppliers are doing this now, my mate works for one changing gas meters. He is an experienced gas engineer but he says there are lots of electrical meter fitter that have done 3 months training and are left to change gas meters. Its because the smart meters need both trades and they only want to send one person.
My mate has been trained to change electrical meters, so its working both ways. He tells me all the time about gas leaks and big mistakes some of these electrical meter fitters make on gas meter installs. Most cant solder properly. Personally i would want somebody changing my gas or electrical meter to have some level of experience not 3 months.
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Is that bracket screwed to the wall? The copper inlet is permissable in certain circs though it would surely have been better to move the meter closer to the ecv to allow use of a flexed inlet? The earth bonding is on the inlet but thats another story.
Incidentally, the relationship between meterwork and ESPs eg Nat Grid is that NG do not have direct responsibility for meterwork. They are an ESP first.
So if an NG bod visits a property, he is under no obligation to refix the meter or bring it up to standard. If it is AR or DGI he can take the appropriate action and tell the customer to contact their supplier to arrange to have meter refixed to standard. Gas company then contacts the owner of the meter and they arrange for it to be refixed.
Curiously the majority of meters in the UK are owned by national grid metering,not to be confused with NG ESP.
So customer contacts gas supplier>gas supplier contacts meter owner (NG metering??)>NG metering decide who they want to do the work and contracts/pas them to do it. That may well be NG ESP.
If NG ESP circumvents that process then he is acting incorrectly.
Incidentally, the relationship between meterwork and ESPs eg Nat Grid is that NG do not have direct responsibility for meterwork. They are an ESP first.
So if an NG bod visits a property, he is under no obligation to refix the meter or bring it up to standard. If it is AR or DGI he can take the appropriate action and tell the customer to contact their supplier to arrange to have meter refixed to standard. Gas company then contacts the owner of the meter and they arrange for it to be refixed.
Curiously the majority of meters in the UK are owned by national grid metering,not to be confused with NG ESP.
So customer contacts gas supplier>gas supplier contacts meter owner (NG metering??)>NG metering decide who they want to do the work and contracts/pas them to do it. That may well be NG ESP.
If NG ESP circumvents that process then he is acting incorrectly.
The gas supplier owns the meter and reg. They then either have their own engineers who fix this or subby out the work,generally a 4 hour response time. The esp is only responsible up to and including the ECV. We no longer do any metering (apart from a gas emergency situation) and then only change the meter if it's a standard credit type. However I'd probably just refix this myself depending on the workload and whether there was copper to tie onto.
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i haven't really had any bother at all with those governors. It's looks like a J42
It was one of the guys from sgn that showed me a sheet of the faulty ones ( I think it was dependent on the serial number )
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