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it will never happen,the only way could see how you could get an owner occupy
to have a cp12 is if the insurance companys insist on a annual inspection,which i think is the way to go.but an owner of property can install a boiler in there own house without being gsr,i know ,its a joke !

Yes thats right you don't have to be GSR to do any gas work in your own house!! BUT you still have to be competent to do gas work and would still need to prove your quals and still need to follow all gas regulations. Its not quite as bad as all those plumbers out there that are doing gas work on lots of other peoples houses who don't know what a regulation is!!! and there is alot of them!! The trouble is we never find them until they have blown some1 up!! and to be honest alot of it is publics fault for letting some1 do work on there house without proper credentials. How do you stop the cheap skates???😱
 
The thing is you probably won't.

You can educate people about the dangers of doing it in their own home and also so that they know a good job being done from a bad one, so the "cowboy" gets away with less.

Lets be frank, "cowboys" usually get away with things because the person they are doing it for don't know much about the work they are letting the "cowboy" do.

The next is price.

If prices are to high then people will be tempted to go for a cheap price no questions asked. Make prices cheap enough and they probably will not bother to get anybody other than a registered person (Which however by itself, it seems is no guarantee of good work, which seems to take us back to letting the customer have free access to info so they can decide for themselves, whether they are getting a good job or not)

If you think about it, the cowboy problem is not new its been going on for years and its still not been stopped.

Funnily enough I went to the theatre recently to watch a play written in about 1908 about the building trade then. The short cut guys where being moaned about even then.

As you say "How do you control it?"

Possibly let every one who wants to work on gas be registered with Gas Safe, ACS or not and let their work be inspected.
Make training cheap and free for all, so a cowboy has no excuse for not getting trained.
Increase Gas Safe inspectors exponentially to the number of gas fitters.
You could expand the market in a few ways to incorporate private houses in regular servicing. You could ask for cash off the big companies to help finance it.
Private people could be charged on their gas bill for an annual service and the money sent to Gas Safe to dole out services to its members.

At least then, perhaps every property would be inspected by someone once a year.
Imagine though the spin off repair business if your prices are affordable?

There are loads of things you probably could do.
 
Sorry my last post should have said 2004. There is a good and a bad side to all this. The good news is that there is so much work out there that the we'll not be running dry soon. Since neither Gas Safe to date not Corgi previously have taken any forward action in addressing this. (If i was in their boots I am Not sure what on earth i would be doing), but i am seeing some great ideas. perhaps we can can get together and offer a tender for the next registration body, laugh).

The money boys can pass laws making it illegal to fit anything but an energy efficient boiler, when it costs nearly twice as much to run them as it did say an old Potterton Profile. (Namely 14kw versus 24 kw for the same heat levels at the HW Cyl and Rads, perhaps food for a new thread, cos i can't be the only who knows this ??). So its gotta be worth something. Perhaps somebody can think of a reason how the powers that be can make big money outta gas safety and then the laws will come.

To add to the good news, why not start promoting it to your own customers. I don't know of many engineers who actually build a solid client list. In and out, or to the next job, selling parts and repairs, new boilers, but there is good money in Gas Safety.

Sell Sell Sell "GAS SAFETY" probably 80 + % of houses out there that we visit have got gas safety needs ! And they all need to be checked annually !! Only yesterday during and engineer inspection, the property owner advised that the installation engineer said the boiler would never need to be serviced, it was safe !!! (It was a 14yr old Posi Draught Boiler)- So not to mention the obvious safety implications, he has thrown away 10 + years work and hords of recommendations !!! Come on you lads
 
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Gas inspection is essential, and it is required from time to time. You will have to consider getting these inspections done on a regular basis. Make sure you check your gas leaks by yourself too. It is possible to inspect them yourself if you have the required knowledge.
 

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