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moogwai

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Hi guys,
ventilation is not my strong point so bear with me and would rather ask about it than get myself in the shoite.
Just been to a first floor flat which has had its warm air boiler shut off by transco due to the apparant lack of ventilation for the appliance.
The boiler is situated in a hall probably 3m long and has a lounge, a kitchen with an air brick (albeit covered by the washing machine),a bathroom with a vent direct to out side air and the front door which leads onto a landing in the communal area with a front and back door off it (very drafty).
None of the doors have any ventilation and the appliance has a heat input of 10.8kw.
I need help with getting the correct ventilation for the appliance and which doors i would need to put the vents in or whether i would need to put vents in all of the doors.
Any help would be appreciated. cheers.

after just reading through my viper book i have seen that i am able to take the path of ventilation through the bathroom because the appliances heat input does not exceed 12.7kw, so..
i need 5cm per kw over 7kw so therefore i would need a vent providing at least 20cm of ventilation??

can someone please confirm this for me.
 
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Hi

Im taking that the appliance is an open flued unit?
and the appliance is in a cupboard?
and the appliance has a return air duct fitted into a different room.

if so then the cupboard requires top and bottom vent into the corridor

top 10.8 divided by 1.1 x 10cm2 = _________cm2
bottom 10.8 divided by 1.1 x 20cm2 = _________cm2

you also require a vent to outside this could be in the communal area

10.8 divided by 1.1 -7kw x 5cm2 = _________cm2

if you have to go through another door from the corridor to the communal area then you would fit another vent 50% bigger than the one you took to outside.

You cannot take ventilation through a bathroom for an open flued appliance no matter what size it is unless its ducted through. and it can only be taken through a bedroom if the appliance is less that 14kw gross and has an ASD on it.

Hope this helps

Regards
gb-gas
 
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Hi gbg.... yes its open flued and the unit isn't in a cupboard,it sits within the walls directly in the corridor. I cant put a vent into the front door as this may affect the integrity of the door. The only way i can see me being able to vent this correctly is by putting in a new vent into the kitchen and putting a vent into the kitchen door. Would you agree? cheers.

p.s and i read my viper book wrong about venting through the bathroom....i realised about 15mins ago!
 
Hi moogwai
that looks like the best alternative. Make sure the vent through the kitchen door is 50% bigger than the one to outside.

Happy venting
Gb-gas
 
Hi moogwai
that looks like the best alternative. Make sure the vent through the kitchen door is 50% bigger than the one to outside.

Happy venting
Gb-gas

if you only need 2 vents (1 in outside wall in kitchen, and 1 in kitchen door to get combustion air to the boiler) then you dont increase the size of the second vent, IF you need a 3rd vent then you make 2nd & 3rd 150% size of vent 1
 

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