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MIs missing... again! What to do?

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kasser

Gas Engineer
Went to service a gas fire and the customer didn't have the MIs. Not a problem, I can try and look it up online, except that the data badge was so old and black, all the markings had gone. I couldn't tell if the fire was above or below 7kW, so if it needed ventilation or not. What would you have done?

Even if I could have identified the appliance, it's notoriously hard to find the MIs for gas fires on the internet, old and new. I was under the impression all gas appliances had a GC number but apparently small ones like gas fires don't need one!

Anyway, the law says that gas engineers cannot work on a gas appliance unless they have the MIs at hand. I think there should also be a law to make all MIs available. Here's my idea.

First to assign a GC number to all appliances to identify them, then add a QR code on the appliances. Both identifiers should be at the front in a visible place, not at the back or anywhere hard to find. Someone scans the QR code or enters the GC on a site and they get the MIs immediately for free, for any gas appliance, no exception.

Gas Safe already has a database of gas appliances as you need to select from a list when notifying. So they could have the MIs alongside them and make this public. Or just on the gov.uk site.

What do you guys think? A law would be needed to get all manufacturers to submit their MIs to this database but it shouldn't be too costly to set up. Unfortunately I don't see the gov innovating. They're too busy doing nothing. Look at sewage being dumped in the sea - been going on for donkey years.
 
If you gas rate it and find out what the input is and know the rules and regs, you don't really need to find the MI's.

Too old for QR codes and messing with phones but I can see the point for younger generations.

Some fires require ventilation below 7kw unless MI's say otherwise. In that case - without MI's - I would treat it as though it does need ventilation and either install it or turn it off.

Hope this helps?
 

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