internal flue

[stevetheplumber]

belive it or not i nearly missed this one first call this morning customer had curtains closed on back door and blinds closed in kitchen was there for a leak on divertor valve opened the blinds for more light and found a new room built on the back of the house
youve got to admire romas ha house and building there own extension spoke great english up to the point when i told them the could be prosecuted
obviously meter capped and labeled both appliances just hope its not me has to reinstate the gas after they are made to take it down
can anyone refresh me on the rules regarding cookers without a window or door to outside as i think they will try only demolishing the part by the flue

 

[Rickster123]

Nice find! How was the first week at the new job mate?

 

[zeebeedee]

View attachment 15056belive it or not i nearly missed this one first call this morning customer had curtains closed on back door and blinds closed in kitchen was there for a leak on divertor valve opened the blinds for more light and found a new room built on the back of the house
youve got to admire romas ha house and building there own extension spoke great english up to the point when i told them the could be prosecuted
obviously meter capped and labeled both appliances just hope its not me has to reinstate the gas after they are made to take it down
can anyone refresh me on the rules regarding cookers without a window or door to outside as i think they will try only demolishing the part by the flue

Fan must come on with the light and stay on for 15 mins after. Connecting door needs to have a certain sized gap under it depending on the size of the room it connects onto.

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Just thought it was ntcs, regarding the cooker, as long as the conservatory/lean-to had a door/window to out side

 

[Ermintrude]

Ncs is 75% ish of ventilation AR if lower??

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Ncs is 75% ish of ventilation AR if lower??

sounds right to me

 

[zeebeedee]

No openable window or door for a cooker is at risk!

 

[zeebeedee]

There's a tb on it can't remember the number though

 

[Ermintrude]

No openable window or door for a cooker is at risk!

Yes that's right as above there wasn't 75% of a door or window so AR!

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

No openable window or door for a cooker is at risk!

not if the conservartory it leads to has a door or window big enough and has a door/window leading to the kitchen afaik

 

[Reg Man]

I hope you raised a RIDDOR with the HSE for the flue. AR for the cooker. These unsafe gem's come up occasionally. You have obliviously raised the RIDDOR report. Did you know that failure to report raises a fine which can be enormous. A company which I investigated got a £21,000 fine in court for failing to report. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...=vd9aNRLlTt_LtxpgYSzyEQ&bvm=bv.53217764,d.ZGU

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

not if the conservartory it leads to has a door or window big enough and has a door/window leading to the kitchen afaik

nope thats wrong as zeb said a cooker is a flueless appliance ALL flueless appliances must be ventilated direct to outside air not via interconnecting rooms so its AR

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I hope you raised a RIDDOR with the HSE for the flue. AR for the cooker. These unsafe gem's come up occasionally. You have obliviously raised the RIDDOR report. Did you know that failure to report raises a fine which can be enormous. A company which I investigated got a £21,000 fine in court for failing to report. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...=vd9aNRLlTt_LtxpgYSzyEQ&bvm=bv.53217764,d.ZGU

who are you REG MAN ?

 

[tamz]

who are you REG MAN ?

His names Steve :wink:

 

[SafeGasInstall]

KING ? the writer

 

[Reg Man]

who are you REG MAN ?

Just a normal bloke.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

KING ? the writer

hes been here for a very long time stan and hopefully most of us wont see what his job involves

 

[lame plumber]

nope thats wrong as zeb said a cooker is a flueless appliance ALL flueless appliances must be ventilated direct to outside air not via interconnecting rooms so its AR

yeaa lets agree to disagree on that comment gasman, have a read of the tb, I had to a few weeks back for a cooker in a inner sanctum of a bar, domestic cooker and it required space under door and regular opening of outer door for venting along with an extractor fan/hood. took me an age to feel happy and consulted building control as well, our guy is quite good on gas for some reason. cant remember the tb but its extant still.

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

find with this problem gas safe, building control et al dont sing from the same hymn sheet

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

yeaa lets agree to disagree on that comment gasman, have a read of the tb, I had to a few weeks back for a cooker in a inner sanctum of a bar, domestic cooker and it required space under door and regular opening of outer door for venting along with an extractor fan/hood. took me an age to feel happy and consulted building control as well, our guy is quite good on gas for some reason. cant remember the tb but its extant still.

whats it got to do with BC? look at the gas regs re ventilation ?

 

[Reg Man]

Put the flue aside, for the cooker look at GSR TB 005.

 

[tamz]

find with this problem gas safe, building control et al dont sing from the same hymn sheet

Its mainly to comply with building regs. not gas regs

 

[Reg Man]

Its mainly to comply with building regs. not gas regs

Gas Regs = satisfying safety of the public. Building Regs = satisfying people in nice suits who would normally look forward to a nice pension.

 

[lame plumber]

my only comment was to say that bc actually knew about the TB which was a surprise to me and his comments were in line with my thoughts, although the new owner wasnt over happy with cutting off the bottom of his new door 🙂

 

[tamz]

the new owner wasnt over happy with cutting off the bottom of his new door 🙂

Coulda been worse. You could have hacked a hole through his wall :smile: