is this possible...

[acecharly]

Seen a job advertised as below:-

Gas Install Engineer TEAMS needed for straight boiler swaps. Is a contract in the Birmingham area, candidates must have the following own tools, own van, ACS qualifications and LOTS of relevant experience. A CSCS card and Asbestos awareness is desired but NOT essential. The work is all domestic work on properties in the Birmingham area please call for location. Please note it is fine if one engineer is qualified and one is a labourer or is also fine if two qualified engineers. The work is long term work and starts ASAP. The work is most likely suited for an experienced installer and a matelabourer, however we are MORE THAN HAPPY to consider teams of fully experienced installers who will do the work at a faster speed. Engineers at the moment are doing 2 swaps per day.


2 a day? are they throwing them at the wall?

 

[Barry98]

i can do a straight swap in a day so 2 should be able to do one each why not

 

[kirkgas]

The prob is they are going to allow one gas and one non gas to do 2 a day cause the gas guy will sign off both, as he will do the gas to both while the other does only the plumbing, but as we know the gas guy must hang the boiler and do the flue plus all gas, testing and commissioning but if he is stupid enough to let his DIY labourer mats do one then the main contractor won't care

 

[Rickster123]

I was doing 2 combis a day a few years back for the council. Ferrolli modena boilers. Not many of them left now!

 

[gassafe]

It aint possible. I would not like to see the quality of an installer expected to install 2 boilers in one day.

 

[TBServices]

It's possible. It's just poor. It's the way warmfront boilers were installed and the reason they're so bad.

 

[Rickster123]

I'd dispute that abit to be honest. The reason warmfront was poor was in the main because the used icos and isar boilers. There was many quality installs done on the warmfront scheme and a lot of very happy customers who were provided free heating that they would otherwise never have been able to afford.

 

[woodsy]

I'd dispute that abit to be honest. The reason warmfront was poor was in the main because the used icos and isar boilers. There was many quality installs done on the warmfront scheme and a lot of very happy customers who were provided free heating that they would otherwise never have been able to afford.

You must be very lucky down by you as the ones round here look like a first year apprentice has done them- as well as crappy isars and icos

 

[barronbathrooms]

I am about to start sub-contracting to a nationwide company doing the same. I'm hoping to take a non gas plumber an do 2 a day. That is the only way to make a decent wage. He is going to do his gas portfolio while we are there

 

[Leo21]

There's no way two can be done well in one day. Draining, unloading and loading van, flushing, benchmark and telling the retard sorry customer how to use it takes two or three hours on its own.

 

[villa_tom]

What happens if you hit a problem? A straight swap could turn into a nightmare and you could easily be starting your second job at bedtime. Plus you have travel time between jobs. I wouldn't do it, you could easily slip up and make a massive mistake. Plus I'm too good looking for jail 🙂

 

[Millsy 82]

Not for me its not. When I did the warm front I had to do 14 hour days to get a combi swap done in a day for heat only it was only 10 hours. Up until 2pm I was power flushing then install the boiler patch up and another flush at the end all takes time. To do 2 a day something has got to be missed.

 

[kirkgas]

I am about to start sub-contracting to a nationwide company doing the same. I'm hoping to take a non gas plumber an do 2 a day. That is the only way to make a decent wage. He is going to do his gas portfolio while we are there

how do you plan to do it with an assistant who needs the job for his portfolio? he will need to be with you to do the gas under his portfolio therefore it becomes a one man job its a lot to get a boiler swapped by lunch then go next door and do the next one

 

[tamz]

its a lot to get a boiler swapped by lunch then go next door and do the next one

Not if you eat your porridge :smile:

 

[mountainman]

Or if you are an experienced haggis stalker.

 

[tamz]

Combi to combi you could literally have it swapped and running in an hour if the pipes are in the same order. Another couple running the condensate and flushing and time to nip to Greggs before the next one.

Cheers MM. You timed that well. She just asked what i fancied for the dinner tomorrow. Haggis and tatties it is if i can catch one :smile:

 

[acecharly]

Im seeing half an half as to if its possible but be honest it shocked me. It said the rate was £300 - £500 a day. What happens if the carcas is 15mm back to the meter? A proper power flush takes hours alone, what if theres no closed drain for condensate and you have to fit a soakaway. If it was just a case of one off one on i guess theres a possibility but seriously how many times is a job straight forward. I know im slow but ive nevr done one in a day its always took a day and couple of hours in the morning. As for two of you fitting if its in a pantry whats your mate doing ...arms around ya waste bonding the pipework? I just think it asks for bad workmanship rushing mistakes and danger only good thing i can see is id have no problems sleeping at night after a day like that.

 

[Barry98]

First job I do is drain the old heating cut the pipes and set the power flush off running whil I'm ripping old boiler out mounting the next etc

 

[acecharly]

how do you run a power flush when youve cut the pipes or am i being dumb here? do you mean at the boiler and loop the F&R?

 

[Barry98]

Yes drain cut the f&e connect pf onto and away we go