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Vrboska

Hi
I would be grateful for an advice on the sewage problem in my summer house abroad.
I plan to build a toilet on the first floor of the house but the only option to connect to septic tank, outside the stone house, is through 50 mm water pipe situated in cellar on ground floor. This pipe gets water from the first floor sink and goes under kitchen floor in length of 5-6 meters to the septic tank outside.
So there is no option to take the wc sewage waste in pipe of 100 mm to the outside septic tank
because between cellar (where this pipe would come from the first floor) and septic tank is the kitchen with 50 mm water pipe under.
Our builder says that the 6-7 meters long sewage pipe of 100 mm diameter from wc would allow waste to dissolve before entering the 50 mm water pipe under kitchen on way to septic tank.
He says that he has seen this scenario in many old houses and advised not to install a macerating pump because:
· wc is on the first floor
· sink drainage 50 mm pipe can accept dissolved waste from 100 mm wc pipe ( as it would be dissolved in horizontally laid pipes long 6-7 meters before entering 50 mm pipe).
This option would make life easier in a place where plumbers are inexperienced with installation and repairs of macerating pump.
Is this possible please and what would be your views on this issues; do we need a macerating pump in these circumstances or we can rely on our builder’s theory?
He might have made this up as he was the one who forgot to install 100 mm pipe under kitchen floor for future toilet when we were renovating kitchen some years ago.
Thank you.
 
Solids from a toilet will not fit down a 50mm pipe. He's an idiot. Can a pipe not be taken up the outside of the house to minimise disruption?
 
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Thank you. It's and old stone house with 50/60 cm thick walls, plus outside this wall are stairs filled with stone on one side and bathroom and kitchen on other side. One of plumbers suggested making a hole through the house wall into the bathroom, run the pipe along bathroom wall (masking it) lift the wc and join there. It is disruption. Just deciding which one: this one or macerating pump. The worrying thing is what if the macerating pump brakes; only couple plumbers on island inexperienced with pump repair.
 
Hi
I would be grateful for an advice on the sewage problem in my summer house abroad.
I plan to build a toilet on the first floor of the house but the only option to connect to septic tank, outside the stone house, is through 50 mm water pipe situated in cellar on ground floor. This pipe gets water from the first floor sink and goes under kitchen floor in length of 5-6 meters to the septic tank outside.
So there is no option to take the wc sewage waste in pipe of 100 mm to the outside septic tank
because between cellar (where this pipe would come from the first floor) and septic tank is the kitchen with 50 mm water pipe under.
Our builder says that the 6-7 meters long sewage pipe of 100 mm diameter from wc would allow waste to dissolve before entering the 50 mm water pipe under kitchen on way to septic tank.
He says that he has seen this scenario in many old houses and advised not to install a macerating pump because:
· wc is on the first floor
· sink drainage 50 mm pipe can accept dissolved waste from 100 mm wc pipe ( as it would be dissolved in horizontally laid pipes long 6-7 meters before entering 50 mm pipe).
This option would make life easier in a place where plumbers are inexperienced with installation and repairs of macerating pump.
Is this possible please and what would be your views on this issues; do we need a macerating pump in these circumstances or we can rely on our builder’s theory?
He might have made this up as he was the one who forgot to install 100 mm pipe under kitchen floor for future toilet when we were renovating kitchen some years ago.
Thank you.
Guys thank you. I know that builder is as described but I need to find a solution now. To dig a 50/60 cm thick stone wall with other work entailed or to put a macerating pump for which I haven't heard very good experience from plumbers!
 
Thank you guys.
An opinion on builder doesn't help, I need a solution on to choose between macerating pump for which I haven't heard good stories from plumbers or to undertake disruptive installation of 100 mm pipe through thick stone walls etc…
On an island abroad with few plumbers inexperienced with repairs of the pump. I’ve read one forums that plumbers hate repairing these pumps. So what are the newest experiences with these pumps? Should I get one from UK or get it locally (quality might be inferior)?
 
The opinions on your builder DO help as he is obviously a clown. You've identified a major issue in that you have no back up should the macerator pack up, and pack up it will if ir is not regularly serviced.

Scrub any and all thoughts of one.

You need a proper soil pipe, with inspection chambers and gullies, sized correctly with the right degree of fall. And certainly not run into a 2" waste.

Anything else will cause you problems.

This we can guarantee you.
 
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In your case with no local macerator engineer you would be a chump to install one and as for the 50mm pipe idea you would very quickly have problems as others have said so you only have one option left.
 
In your case with no local macerator engineer you would be a chump to install one and as for the 50mm pipe idea you would very quickly have problems as others have said so you only have one option left.

He was going to fly you out there all expenses paid every 3 months to maintain it as well dude... £100 ph too 😉
 
He was going to fly you out there all expenses paid every 3 months to maintain it as well dude... £100 ph too 😉

Now that might of been very tempting but as yet we don`t know where the island is and as for getting my toolbag through customs well god help me! lol
 
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Depending on where your property is based and what there local regs are can differ hugely from ours so I would defonatlay look into that first vrboska,
welcome to the forum
 

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