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National Utility Solutions

Welcome to the forum. Although you can post in any forum, the USA forum is here in case of local regs or laws

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mak

Anyone heard of National Utility Solutions ?
Had email from them saying

We are looking for a gas / Electrical company that can take on the following in the ST Postcode areas



National Utility Solutions associate with various trades in order to offer a full ‘one stop’ service to our clients. All of our tradesmen are fully qualified and considered experts in their chosen profession. The contract will initially be over a minimum of a 2-year period and will entail a number of aspects within these industries





Gas Safety Certificates

Gas Installations

Gas Maintenance

Breakdown & Repair work

Bathroom installations (optional)

Remedial work (optional)



If possible also take on:



Electrical repair work

Electrical P.A.T testing

Electrical P.I.R testing

Electrical Installation work



Any thoughts ??
 
mak said:
Anyone heard of National Utility Solutions ?
Had email from them saying

We are looking for a gas / Electrical company that can take on the following in the ST Postcode areas



National Utility Solutions associate with various trades in order to offer a full ‘one stop’ service to our clients. All of our tradesmen are fully qualified and considered experts in their chosen profession. The contract will initially be over a minimum of a 2-year period and will entail a number of aspects within these industries





Gas Safety Certificates

Gas Installations

Gas Maintenance

Breakdown & Repair work

Bathroom installations (optional)

Remedial work (optional)



If possible also take on:



Electrical repair work

Electrical P.A.T testing

Electrical P.I.R testing

Electrical Installation work



Any thoughts ??
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do not touch them,rip off.
 
Is this the one where you have to pay them for the work?? I had a phone call today off a firm offering work, haven't returned it yet. Maybe its the same???
 
Normally they want a 2K start up fee, have had loads of emails from company's offering this kind of employment/contracts!!

They just get deleted!! LOL
 
Its tragic that these sort of firms prey on small firms (1 man bands) looking for work , be nice if the govt could put rid of these parasites
 
It's all rubbish offering 400 jobs a year? That's more than one a day sometimes and if people like bg go quiet how on earth are these peopl surviving? Just a massive scam stay well away!!
 
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has bg gone quiet? i had read somewhere on this forum other day that they have dropped there prices .
 
Dunno really just an example that if they are quiet at any stage, coz every company big or small has a quiet patch, how are these thieves getting by?
 
I dont think BG have gone quiet in scotland anyhow, they have picked up government funded work for installing heating systems for pensioners was told theyr expecting around 20,000 a year for the next 3-5 years

for NUS - people have posted on here before about your company, wether or not it is some con artist claiming to be yourself or not but they are phoning people up and asking for £2000 up front for 400+ jobs a year? is this true or not ?
 
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NUS said:
Addressing all engineers,

We are aware of the comments that have been posted on this site.

This is to confirm that our legal team are currently investigating these so called 'engineers' who are posting on this site, and they are dealing directly with the UK Plumbing Forum. National Utility Solutions strongly refute any negative comments posted on this site.

We have been advised that most (if not all) slanderous and assumptive comments about National Utility Solutions are being generated by our main competitors to detract from our products and try to directly affect our business in order to strengthen their own. Not one of the posts on this site are from any of our engineers (past or present).

As this is a concern for our organisation, we are only more than happy to take on any enquiries regarding our business or the contracts which we have available throughout the UK. This information will be supplied accurately and based on facts not speculation.

Any enquiries relating to this or any other post regarding National Utility Solutions can be made to David Knight on 0845 474 3935.

Kind Regards,

National Utility Solutions.
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I must say I am impressed with the heavy handed way in which you are dealing with this, looks a bit like scare tactics to me I have found that people who deny extremly loudly and threaten with soliceters and court action usually have something to Hide, So is there a specific reason why you have waded in so heavy handedly or should the people who claim to have been contacted by your reps be contacting rouge traders for assitance.
Regards
Mike
 
National utility Solutions you are not doing your selves any favours over reacting in this manner. this is a free country and everyone in entitled to their opion.
 
steveb said:
National utility Solutions you are not doing your selves any favours over reacting in this manner. this is a free country and everyone in entitled to their opion.
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Lol yer spellins as bad as mine terday Steveb!!!!!!!!!!!

I would like to say that you only have to look at the 0845 number they use as proof of their alleged money grabbing tactics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Well I suppose there must be profit in sueing poeple otherwise they wouldnt threaten the alleged offenders with it!!!!!!!! and they have been watching this thread constantly whilst I have been on here and I am dissapointed with the lack of response, So David would you care to chat with us??????????

Thank you for looking at me user profile, I checked yours out to but not a lot there, if you would like to ask me something in confidence you are more than welcome to PM me
 
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Oh well no response and no PM, not very sociable so I wonder if what people have been posting is all true!!!!!!
I wonder if any of the moderators can confirm if NUS is collaberating with the forum to sue all and sundry?
I would also like to add that unfortunatly the company in question has never contacted me regarding work but then as I have always said i dont advertise, Also gas safe are under strict instructions not to give out any of my details although I have heard rumours that Corgi have sold a lot installers information to various nefferious companies but as I say that is only a rumour.

To be honest I look at work the same way as I look at wimmin, and I can assure you I have never had to pay for either!!!!!!!
 
talking about the 08 number, i get charged everytime one of the ****ers rings me, sick of paying a lot more for my phone bill.. dont even bother answering if i see a 08 number now...
 
lol you like your conspiricy theories. So have you contacted them and if so what did they say?
Message to unguided
 
Guys I'm confused can someone please tell me What have these guys done wrong. Is anyone here doing work for them?
 
HeatyourStreet said:
lol you like your conspiricy theories. So have you contacted them and if so what did they say?
Message to unguided
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No I havent contacted them as I being the poorest plumber in the world I cant afford to ring 0845 numbers on me pay as I go, Also as a self unemployed plumber when I feel like it, I have no need of their services, but I was intriuged with their heavy handed and clumsy attempts to show that they really are the good guys and anyone who slates them must be their opposition.
I am a guy who likes to question everything as there is always two sides to a story unfortunately we are only getting one side as I am not being responded to, plus it makes an interesting thread
 
Dont get me wrong it is interesting as I'm now also intriuged to find out what its is that they've done or doing. I am just starting out and want to build a client base hense how I came to find this thread. But if I could honestly secure a long term contract to get me started I'd be happy. Message for unguided.

I checked out previous thread thanks for that. The only thing with that thread is the same with this one I cant see anyone thats doing work for them. It only seems to be folk thats been contacted.

I get inudated with advertisers is that what these guys do? Message for SimonG

Oh yeah also guys as I've just started out I dont have 2k to part with but if I did I don't know if I would use it to advertise because I hear its a waste of time
 
HeatyourStreet said:
Dont get me wrong it is interesting as I'm now also intriuged to find out what its is that they've done or doing. I am just starting out and want to build a client base hense how I came to find this thread. But if I could honestly secure a long term contract to get me started I'd be happy. Message for unguided.

I checked out previous thread thanks for that. The only thing with that thread is the same with this one I cant see anyone thats doing work for them. It only seems to be folk thats been contacted.

I get inudated with advertisers is that what these guys do? Message for SimonG

Oh yeah also guys as I've just started out I dont have 2k to part with but if I did I don't know if I would use it to advertise because I hear its a waste of time
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To be honest I know nothing hense my questioning but they wont respond to me, they are still watching this thread so if you ask them directly they may well be able to explain all to you.
Having said that if yer like conspiracy theories I notice that they have come on the forum today and their first post was here and then I started asking questions and this afternoon you came on and your first post was about this and then you are directing all these questions at me, and I feel you are trying to draw me out to say something derogatory, not that I am bothered as I already know that the voices in me head tell me I like yer😉
 
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I was contacted by them a few months back over email and said I might be interested and has a few more emails from them......then when I asked why did they leave it so late to find plumbers for a contract which starts on "monday" and if they were a big company surely they would have the manpower in place well before the contract was due to start!.......never got a reply to that question.....so draw your own conclusions......it seemed to me they were just after my 2g and when they thought I could be trouble went on to the next plumber.....so you can draw your own conclusions to that.

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Lmao, so is elvis still alive??? who killed JFK?? I didn't only direct at you but the reason I asked you is because you seem to be following this and are a serial conspirist poster lol
 
So they never chased you for your 2g and that makes you think they wanted your 2g or did they give the work to someone else😀
 
Put it this way I know the americans never made it to the moon coz the russians brought me elvis and JFK here together we just all wish we could get rid of buddy holly!!!
 
i am fully qualified plumber/gas engineer, i am willing to work for n.u.s.,can you please tell me why you require a payment up front, you have my details if you are genuine get in touch,i asked you for a plumber on your books in my area telephone number address, company name, you sent me a mobile number !, come on, stop the threats and come up with the truth,if genuine you have nothing to lose.
 
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it's strange only joined today and only posted on this subject. yes i'm interested in conspiracy theorys as well.
 
NUS said:
We are abstaining from comments as advised by our legal team as this matter is still under investigation.

Assuring you of our best intentions at all times.

National Utility Solutions.
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can you reply to my early questions and provide me with evidence of your best intentions.
 
I dont think they'll reply if they've being advised legally not to comment. The best thing to do would be contact them direct.
 
I was just trying to find the address for National Utility Solutions and couldn't on their website. So I checked their WHOIS records for their domain name, which they have protected. However their domain name servers being used for the domain are ns1.nationalhomereports.com. When I checked their website out, the contact details are as follows:

GROUP 3 ENERGY SOLUTIONS LTD

Blue Square House
272 Bath Street
Glasgow
G2 4JR

Call on: 0845 519 2612

Which suggest they are in fact something to do with Group 3 Energy. Something the owner of the company claimed he is not anything to do with.

nationalhomereports.com
nationalutilitysolutions.com
group3energy.com

All use the same DNS for their domain names. That means they're hosted on the same server with the same host.
 
NUS has been removed from the forum. We don't allow the forum to be used unless you're a plumber or electrician here to gain or provide advice. You should direct questions to them if you want to ask them something.
 
We were contacted early March 2011 by NUS. Work was slowly drying up due to the turn of weather and the issues with the warmfront contracts so we were looking for work .Since setting up the company my husband had agreed to many scams, advertising in nonexistent magazines, getting on the front page of google, etc which I had had to sort out so I was very sceptical. Low and behold we were told we won the tender for our area and would have work from council, housing association and private lettings. Having googled them it all looked legit (this forum was not running then!) and we parted with the £2010. The contract is set out and it agrees to 400 jobs over 2 years. If they do not deliver the jobs then we get our money back. To date we have not had one job. Initially we had to wait due to the administration of the contract, then for the work to come in. Now they have contacted us stating we have over priced ourselves out of the area (not too sure why they didnt tell us this before we parted with our money) apparently engineers in our area are providing landlord checks for £35 + vat. It is very hard not to be tempted due to this industry being so seasonal but would recommed to stay well clear.
I will keep you posted to see if we ever receive a job.
 
Hi, lads.

Just had a call from them, and a Google search brought this site up so I joined to see what you had to say.

These sort of outfits have been discussed on other sites, none with a good word to say, I personally wish I had a job for every reptile who rings up trying to scam money out of me.

My personal mantra is "Cold- callers are either c**ts or conmen "

Vinnie
 
hi guys, i have also been contacted by this company. thanks to this thread i now know not to risk my business on this scam. i have not seen much hard evidence of what they have done to rip anyone off but it sure seems that they have had an awful lot of 2 year contracts to fill, i would have thought this would not be that hard to achieve in the current economic climate!???. i hope these guys dont ruin too many hard working peoples livelyhoods as alot of businesses are on thin ice!, very sad!. still, thanks to this plumbing forum and sharing of information between fellow plumbers it hopefully will limit the impact. i normally just read threads, i think it might be because i have to put my beer down to type, lol. but in this case i really think i should put in my bit in return for what others have bothered to type. anyone else with info, maybe you have been on or are on the contract or have worked direct for this company?
 
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I have also been contacted by this company, so I have sent them an email as follows:

"Dear Mr Jackson,

Thank you for contacting me regarding your contract. I have done a bit of surface research and to be honest its not turned out all positive and to compound this I am wondering to myself why such a large company would leave it so late to find sub-contractors for a contract which starts next week? I am also concerned with the initial outlay I would be required to pay.

I think I would prefer to carry on with my business the way it is. If you are happy to offer these contracts without the initial outlay and rather take a percentage of my earnings then I might be interested.

Kind regards
Andrew King-Page"

Lets see what they come back with because if they need me as urgently as they claim then they would be a bit flexible with their terms wouldn't they? and if it isn't all about the Contract fee then they can take this fee off me once I have earned some money from them....I will keep this posted with any responses.
 
Ive just had a eureka moment, I applied to a website called builderhelper about 3 days ago, it pretends to be the same as rated people but you pay a monthly subscription( I opted for the free one lead per day option). Then two days later I was contacted by NUS (National Utility Solutions), I didn't put the two together until I saw another post from a person who said that National Utility Solutions is part of a 3 company group "This company is part of Group 3 Energy, and National Home Reports." National home reports is using the exact same template on their home page as builderhelper! So now we can add another "scam" site to National Utility Solutions repertoire. avoid builderhelper too!!!
 
akingpage said:
Lets see what they come back with ...
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Wouldn't surprise me if you're email address is added to all those tool enhancing pills, weight loss, watches, etc, etc.

The trouble is there are so many people desperate for money they'll respond to these "money for business" schemes without wondering why it sounds so good.
 
GQuigley67 said:
I dont think BG have gone quiet in scotland anyhow, they have picked up government funded work for installing heating systems for pensioners was told theyr expecting around 20,000 a year for the next 3-5 years

for NUS - people have posted on here before about your company, wether or not it is some con artist claiming to be yourself or not but they are phoning people up and asking for £2000 up front for 400+ jobs a year? is this true or not ?
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I paid £2000 in Feb 2011 for my son to get work from NUS. Again, promissing 400+ properties. To date all he's been provided with is appointments to meet with 3 firms who carry out landlord certificates etc. He could have got these by contacting themselves from e.g. yellow pages so I think it would be wise NOT TO PART WITH ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU GET PROPER WORK. Thay said they were expanding in all areas and needed Engineers. Has anybody out there had any work from NUS that they've got paid for ?
 
2 grand !!!!
you could advertise for a year and prob get a fiar bit of work from that !!
 
beamish said:
hi guys, i have also been contacted by this company. thanks to this thread i now know not to risk my business on this scam. i have not seen much hard evidence of what they have done to rip anyone off but it sure seems that they have had an awful lot of 2 year contracts to fill, i would have thought this would not be that hard to achieve in the current economic climate!???. i hope these guys dont ruin too many hard working peoples livelyhoods as alot of businesses are on thin ice!, very sad!. still, thanks to this plumbing forum and sharing of information between fellow plumbers it hopefully will limit the impact. i normally just read threads, i think it might be because i have to put my beer down to type, lol. but in this case i really think i should put in my bit in return for what others have bothered to type. anyone else with info, maybe you have been on or are on the contract or have worked direct for this company?
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I paid £2000 in Feb 2011 for my son to get work from NUS. Again, promissing 400+ properties. To date all he's been provided with is appointments to meet with 3 firms who carry out landlord certificates etc. He could have got these by contacting themselves from e.g. yellow pages so I think it would be wise NOT TO PART WITH ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU GET PROPER WORK. Thay said they were expanding in all areas and needed Engineers. Has anybody out there had any work from NUS that they've got paid for ?
 
Doggydoo, not meaning to be rude, but we get the message. Unfortunately these scam artists are rife on the internet and before anyone parts with money we would always urge the to consider all options, do research and find out who you are paying. You wouldn't pay someone who came to your front door offering the same so why do it from an email?
I hope you can get some recompense from these scam artists, they do nothing but prey on unsuspecting honest tradesmen.
 
I didn't do it lightly. I did some research/called a reference. See their Internet page. I've since found out their address at Hanover Street on the website is 'virtual' ....probably set up by a company who provide 'look we operate from a prestigious property'. I'm sure the other addresses are 'virtual' too. The website operates from Los Angeles, outside of European Law. These people will not meet face-to-face to discuss ... just threaten legal action from their Legal Department. I wish I had found this website before parting with my dosh. Their should be a 'central' website set up by somebody to list these dodgy firms. Maybe I'll start one ! NOTE I just found out that dot.co.uk sites are legally bound to register details ...... dot.com sites do not ..... beware dot.COM sites
 
I was approached by these cowboys monday, They now want £1703 up front for the usual promise of 400 jobs a year on a 2 month contract.

I found this thread very useful, thanyou all very much. also some strong views here: [DLMURL="http://www.blagger.com/db4/company_id/12221/companyname/National-Utility-Solutions.html"]National Utility Solutions - Blagger.com - The place to leave feedback and comments about companies you have used[/DLMURL]

I politely told them I wasnt interested and to never contact me again.
 
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Glad to help someone. Some new guy has even been in touch again about providing another contract !!
 
desrob said:
they just won't go away ,will they..
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No unfortunately...............not only are they emailing GSR engineers they must be getting desperate to ,have left 2 messages on my answermachine regarding their fantastic offer.They need a decision from me by the 16th of Dec and this is their final offer, remarkable since I have never ever spoken to them or emailed them for that matter.
Wanchors.
 
Ive spat the dummy out and contacted CIPHE about this crowd as they appear to be using their logo on their website. lets see what happens.. if anything.
 
£1703 up front !!!!
I spent about that on my last holiday on boozing and i far as i am concerned it was worth every penny !!
Cant see me ever stuping money like that upfront so i can quote a bathroom !
 
It's probaby not even run from this country. You hear about similar things being run from Russia / Nigeria / Albania etc with a fronting address in the UK.
 
your probably right about being run outside of the UK, outside of UK law aswell, I got a phone call the other day some guy telling me about this leaflet that is going out about kids, cancer blah blah i can be on front page advertising and dont have to pay until nxt year blah blah, I said sure send me the details via email and I'll have a look at it, NOT ONE EMAIL
 
just another scam Gerry. I get them all the time. I had an email back from CIPHE, they have contacted Trading standards and are aware of this company but thanks for letting us know etc. etc..
 
I knew it was a scam, just knew there was going to be no email lol because had an almost identical scam a few months back, from now on all english numbers are getting ignored lol
 
mak said:
Anyone heard of National Utility Solutions ?
Had email from them saying

We are looking for a gas / Electrical company that can take on the following in the ST Postcode areas



National Utility Solutions associate with various trades in order to offer a full ‘one stop’ service to our clients. All of our tradesmen are fully qualified and considered experts in their chosen profession. The contract will initially be over a minimum of a 2-year period and will entail a number of aspects within these industries





Gas Safety Certificates

Gas Installations

Gas Maintenance

Breakdown & Repair work

Bathroom installations (optional)

Remedial work (optional)



If possible also take on:



Electrical repair work

Electrical P.A.T testing

Electrical P.I.R testing

Electrical Installation work



Any thoughts ??
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We signed a contract last year and are still waiting for work - do not touch them with a barge pole. If you look at the testimonial page on the website the gas safe numbers given by people who are allegedly doing work for them are invalid. We are sure they are connected to a company called Group 3 Energy - if you look at both websites the text reads the same and they are both in Scotland. I'm seriously considering reporting to the office of fair trading.
 
NUS advertise gas work but don't appear to be registered with Gas Safe is this legal?

They don't appear to have the CIPHE logo on the website now or any other registration body?
 
DON'T TOUCH THEM WITH A BARGEPOLE ....... DO NOT PART WITH ANY OF YOUR HARD EARNED £2000. ASK THEM TO MEET YOU FACE-TO-FACE ....... bet it doesn't happen !!!! i've lost my £2000 and had no work from them in over a year now.
 
Right, we need to take action. Its all well and good posting on here but something needs to be done about these scammers. There is also another forum on here regarding NUS with the same comments from innocent people getting scammed.
I note someone has reported to trading standards, how far did you get?
What if we all join forces with our business details and report to Trading Standards in one go & Companies House while we are at it, actually why not watchdog to.
What do you think??
 
Mario27 said:
Right, we need to take action. Its all well and good posting on here but something needs to be done about these scammers. There is also another forum on here regarding NUS with the same comments from innocent people getting scammed.
I note someone has reported to trading standards, how far did you get?
What if we all join forces with our business details and report to Trading Standards in one go & Companies House while we are at it, actually why not watchdog to.
What do you think??
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Companies House ..... waste of time
Police ..................... waste of time
Action Fraud ........... waste of time
OFT ....................... waste of time
writing to ANY of the NUS addresses on their website .... don't bother ....they are all returned 'undeliverable'.

Their website/emails etc are set up via a scamming site in California.

GOOD NEWS !!! Based on emails/letters sent & returned/website 'scam' frontage etc I put a case together after the 1st 12 months expired and I had no 'work' from NUS .... and sent it to my Credit Card Companies on which I had paid the £2000 they asked for ...... I hjave had my monies re-credited to my cards !!!! It's cost me phoyocopying etc costs, time, effort, tel calls but I'VE GOT MY MONEY BACK AT LAST !


Your only hope is to go via the Credit Card Companies (if you paid via that method) and DON'T GIVE UP / PERSIST WITH THEM.

Hope this advice helps others and GOOD LUCK.


Your idea via Trading Standards as a joint group MAY be worthwhile but be prepared to put the effort in ...... GOOD LUCK
 
Companies House is only for registration. If they don't submit accounts they will be struck off. Police won't get involved as it appears to be a civil mater (breach of contract) not a criminal matter. Start with Trading Standards. They will refer to ASA and if they suspect fraud - the police will get involved.

One of the best ways of getting noticed by Trading Standards is if they get a lot of letters on the same subject in a short period of time. How many on this forum have been contacted by them? How many have given them money? If we all write to them at the same time it may work.
 
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Companies House is only for registration. If they don't submit accounts they will be struck off. Police won't get involved as it appears to be a civil mater (breach of contract) not a criminal matter. Start with Trading Standards. They will refer to ASA and if they suspect fraud - the police will get involved.

One of the best ways of getting noticed by Trading Standards is if they get a lot of letters on the same subject in a short period of time. How many on this forum have been contacted by them? How many have given them money? If we all write to them at the same time it may work.
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I agree about the Trading Standards bit ..... I've had no success with ASA already .... they MAY investigate but won't actually advise you of any outcome.

report them to trading standards and refer them to this Forum ..... in my 'case' to my credit card companies I 'screeen dumped' a lot of peoples comments ands posted them ..... maybe do likewise to Trading Standards. GOOD LUCK. I'll keep watching this Forum.
 
Dear Sir.

I have been asked to speak to Companies in the area with a view to implementing someone suitable to look after a number of tenanted properties on behalf of our clients. These are located in and around Nottingham area. This is in relevance to the ongoing gas works and subsequent maintenance requirements over the next 24 months.

For the last 2 or 3 weeks I have been in contact with a number of engineers and we are slowly compiling our shortlist of interested parties. If the below Contract sounds like something that could benefit your company and/or you would like some further information, then please do not hesitate to get back in touch.

Thanks

Chris Wallace


MY REPLY:


Interesting reading don't you think?




http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/gas-safety-register-forum/21152-national-utility-solutions-6.html




Refrain from sending me anymore emails.




Kind regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Thank You for your reply xxxxx

The Good Old UK Plumbers forum !!!

The person who runs the site is called Daniel Freakley and also owns a building company that we turned down over 2 years ago to cover full maintenance contract within his area, The reason was very simple that Certain Clients had used his company before and was best than please with the work he undertook.

If you read the forums no one on there have done any work or contracts and are just putting their view forward just like you, But we always supply references of companies that have been through the process and are ACTUALLY doing the contracts so people can get an unbiased view on this.

Again the forum and people who post on it are the same 3-4 companies and surprise surprise its the sites administrators who are employed to run his site and there are also companies on there that have joined up and are getting work that have posted.

Again xxxxx as a company we understand the forum and have a legal team that deals with this on our behalf again it’s a shame you are one of their very small minority who would rather read gas engineers who have all day to sit in front of a computer and slate everything about everything, again my question is why are they not out working maybe have no work due to them being the COWBOYS of the GAS INDUSTRY.

We have plenty of Companies that cover the contracts and all have done their research some have even laughed at the forum and found it very entertaining, But again our engineers that cover this are far too busy themselves doing work !!!!

We as a company are very happy with what we provide and you don’t get to cover work for Banking Groups if we are SCAMMERS !!!

Again thanks for the reply and don’t always believe what you read

Regards

Chris Wallace
 
Well looks like `Chris Wallace` last line say's it all, ` Dont always believe what you read, as for working for the banks, the biggest SCAMMERS , he's in good company, Let him put his money where is mouth is, and provide the proof of all these companey's that they claim to be working for !! As none of our local Banks & Estate Agents have heard of them. So Chris Wallace PUT UP OR SHUT UP !! Next thing will be as they are based in Scotland he will be claiming to be related to Willam Wallace.
 
jtsplumbing said:
Well looks like `Chris Wallace` last line say's it all, ` Dont always believe what you read, as for working for the banks, the biggest SCAMMERS , he's in good company, Let him put his money where is mouth is, and provide the proof of all these companey's that they claim to be working for !! As none of our local Banks & Estate Agents have heard of them. So Chris Wallace PUT UP OR SHUT UP !! Next thing will be as they are based in Scotland he will be claiming to be related to Willam Wallace.
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Just ask any of these people to meet FACE-TO-FACE to discuss contracts and PROVIDE REFERENCES of Engineers employed which you can contact INDEPENDENTLY (don't trust tel nos etc provided for you) AND I BET NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ..... KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET .
 
Hmm interesting.

Judging by the bad English, it would appear that English isn't this guy's first language, and Chris Wallace is unlikely to be his real name. If I were guessing, I would probably have a stab at Russian or Nigerian.
 
Hey Guys, got this one through today:

[FONT=&quot]Contract Reference Number: 1907SW12[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]Please quote reference number:[/FONT]​
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[FONT=&quot]My name is FranHart and I am a Contract Liaison Consultant for MTM Group UK, we are leadingthe way in Maintenance contracts throughout the UK. I have been tasked withsecuring various Gas, Electrical and Maintenance contractors throughout the UK.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We are looking fora company who can effectively be responsible for the ongoing maintenance overthe next 30 months of domestic rental properties and refurbishments eithercovering Gas, Heating & Plumbing or a full Multi- Maintenance contract.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I have been speakingto companies for the last few days now with a view to confirming suitabilityfor the work within the Contract. All the contract details that you wouldrequire are detailed below, also I have attached a hyper link to our websiteand vendor application form to allow you to see what we do as a company if youhave any further questions or queries please don’t hesitate to contact myselfdirectly on the details below and a member of our highly experienced team willbe able to deal with your enquiry quickly and efficiently.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Many Thanks[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fran Hart

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[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]Maintenance Contract Details[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The portfolios of properties are provided by a number of ourclients within the designated areas:[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]We currently have in the region of 492 properties although we dohave the scope to increase this beyond the 650 mark. These range from Domesticrentals, Student accommodation lets and Void properties (provided by BankingClients and Insurance Companies) we are looking for a company that is in aposition to expand and grow and we would hope to provide further properties tothat company throughout the Contract. Inevitably there may be no further roomwithin your business and we would then look to take on a further company withinthe area to accommodate the extra workload.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Client Requirements[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We have been asked, as part of our Contractual agreements tofulfil all maintenance requirements on our client’s properties.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ultimately we require providing trades to cover anything fromplanned maintenance, emergency repairs, periodic inspections, refurbishmentsetc.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The range of specific duties within these provided services willinclude: [/FONT]

Landlord Safety Checks
Gas Services
Breakdowns
Callouts (24hrs Response) (Optional)
General Plumbing
Bathroom Install (Optional)
Boiler Install
Electrical Services (Optional)
General Building (Optional)
Void Work[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]MTM Group Requirements
We are specifically looking for acompany covering the local area and beyond who can be relied upon to providethese ongoing services. For the next 30 months we would be looking to install aresponsible maintenance company who can provide very high customer services,and can ultimately build strong relationships with our Clients.
We are only looking to implementone company within the area as this is a legal contract if we are to break upthe contract we can’t guarantee it.

Contract Payment Fee
There is a financial element to the Contract, which isapplicable to the awarded contractor (and only the awarded contractor).
This allows us to have genuine commitment from our Contractorand ongoing, we have a solid base for all parties.
Our clients only wish to work with affiliated companies andwe are able to effectively weed out the good and the bad from the process earlyon and for the Contractors they benefit from having the security of work andcommitment from ourselves to fully assist throughout the Contract.
Most companies will look at the Contract as an opportunity toexpand and grow their business, giving consistent work and variety in theirdaily diary. By having a financial commitment our National Clients are ensuredthe right Contractor is in place to work on there properties over the next 30months, assures there is a vested interest in the contract and services levelare maintained for the duration of the contract.

Example-
An example of how this is applied in other ways would be as adeposit on a rental property for instance. This is completely necessary toensure provisions are taken place to look after the property throughout therental agreement and both sides are protected should the other default on theirresponsibilities. This is something that is becoming more and more popularwithin the industry and over the coming months will be implemented by othernational organisations to safeguard their investments.
Currently companies like B&Q and also Homebase havecontractor payments in place for engineers fitting their kitchens and bathroomssupplied to customers purchasing them from their stores. The reason for this issimple “commitment”, they, like us have a reputation and a standard to adhereto, and this must be met by all parties involved to allow total competence ineverything we do. I’m sure you will be able to appreciate this and also thereasoning behind it.
We also have safeguards in place and along with the guaranteeswithin the Contract for the work; the Payment is also refunded should there beissues arising from services provided.

If you feel that you are the right company or engineer forthis contract and can deliver the service requirements for our National Clientsand would like to find out more regarding the Contract opportunity then pleasefill in our Vendors form by clicking the link supplied and a member of thecontracts team will be in touch with you ASAP.


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My Reply:

Hi Fran,

Do you have any independent engineers who I can contact to see how they are getting on with your contract? Can you please let me know who your clients are? Can we meet face-to-face to discuss this contract? I am very wary about these contract offers as I have read a lot about how they are scams as below.

http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/gas-safe-register-forum/21152-national-utility-solutions-5.html

Kind regards

I also copied watchdog in on the email, if you guys get any more of these emails reply and copy watchdog in to the reply, if they get loads of us emailing them they might investigate!

[email protected]
 
akingpage said:
Hey Guys, got this one through today:

Contract Reference Number: 1907SW12
Please quote reference number:​

My name is FranHart and I am a Contract Liaison Consultant for MTM Group UK, we are leadingthe way in Maintenance contracts throughout the UK. I have been tasked withsecuring various Gas, Electrical and Maintenance contractors throughout the UK.
We are looking fora company who can effectively be responsible for the ongoing maintenance overthe next 30 months of domestic rental properties and refurbishments eithercovering Gas, Heating & Plumbing or a full Multi- Maintenance contract.
I have been speakingto companies for the last few days now with a view to confirming suitabilityfor the work within the Contract. All the contract details that you wouldrequire are detailed below, also I have attached a hyper link to our websiteand vendor application form to allow you to see what we do as a company if youhave any further questions or queries please don’t hesitate to contact myselfdirectly on the details below and a member of our highly experienced team willbe able to deal with your enquiry quickly and efficiently.

Many Thanks
Fran Hart

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Just ask any of these people to meet FACE-TO-FACE to discuss contracts and PROVIDE REFERENCES of Engineers employed which you can contact INDEPENDENTLY (don't trust tel nos etc provided for you) AND I BET NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ..... KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET .

Read more: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/g...tional-utility-solutions-5.html#ixzz21BVuSKnc
 
akingpage said:
My Reply:

Hi Fran,

Do you have any independent engineers who I can contact to see how they are getting on with your contract? Can you please let me know who your clients are? Can we meet face-to-face to discuss this contract? I am very wary about these contract offers as I have read a lot about how they are scams as below.

http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/gas-safe-register-forum/21152-national-utility-solutions-5.html

Kind regards

I also copied watchdog in on the email, if you guys get any more of these emails reply and copy watchdog in to the reply, if they get loads of us emailing them they might investigate!

[email protected]
Click to expand...
Just ask any of these people to meet FACE-TO-FACE to discuss contracts and PROVIDE REFERENCES of Engineers employed which you can contact INDEPENDENTLY (don't trust tel nos etc provided for you) AND I BET NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ..... KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET .

Read more: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/g...tional-utility-solutions-5.html#ixzz21BVuSKnc
 
bronzino said:
Dear Sir.

I have been asked to speak to Companies in the area with a view to implementing someone suitable to look after a number of tenanted properties on behalf of our clients. These are located in and around Nottingham area. This is in relevance to the ongoing gas works and subsequent maintenance requirements over the next 24 months.

For the last 2 or 3 weeks I have been in contact with a number of engineers and we are slowly compiling our shortlist of interested parties. If the below Contract sounds like something that could benefit your company and/or you would like some further information, then please do not hesitate to get back in touch.

Thanks

Chris Wallace


MY REPLY:


Interesting reading don't you think?




http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/gas-safety-register-forum/21152-national-utility-solutions-6.html




Refrain from sending me anymore emails.




Kind regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


HIS REPLY:


Thank You for your reply xxxxx

The Good Old UK Plumbers forum !!!

The person who runs the site is called Daniel Freakley and also owns a building company that we turned down over 2 years ago to cover full maintenance contract within his area, The reason was very simple that Certain Clients had used his company before and was best than please with the work he undertook.

If you read the forums no one on there have done any work or contracts and are just putting their view forward just like you, But we always supply references of companies that have been through the process and are ACTUALLY doing the contracts so people can get an unbiased view on this.

Again the forum and people who post on it are the same 3-4 companies and surprise surprise its the sites administrators who are employed to run his site and there are also companies on there that have joined up and are getting work that have posted.

Again xxxxx as a company we understand the forum and have a legal team that deals with this on our behalf again it’s a shame you are one of their very small minority who would rather read gas engineers who have all day to sit in front of a computer and slate everything about everything, again my question is why are they not out working maybe have no work due to them being the COWBOYS of the GAS INDUSTRY.

We have plenty of Companies that cover the contracts and all have done their research some have even laughed at the forum and found it very entertaining, But again our engineers that cover this are far too busy themselves doing work !!!!

We as a company are very happy with what we provide and you don’t get to cover work for Banking Groups if we are SCAMMERS !!!

Again thanks for the reply and don’t always believe what you read

Regards

Chris Wallace
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Just ask any of these people to meet FACE-TO-FACE to discuss contracts and PROVIDE REFERENCES of Engineers employed which you can contact INDEPENDENTLY (don't trust tel nos etc provided for you) AND I BET NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ..... KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET .

Read more: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/g...tional-utility-solutions-5.html#ixzz21BVuSKnc
 
For two thousand quid up front I would be happy to proof read their begging letters to add spacing and correct speeling and punktuation.
 
vinniethecat said:
For two thousand quid up front I would be happy to proof read their begging letters to add spacing and correct speeling and punktuation.
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DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME.

Just ask any of these people to meet FACE-TO-FACE to discuss contracts and PROVIDE REFERENCES of Engineers employed which you can contact INDEPENDENTLY (don't trust tel nos etc provided for you) AND I BET NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ..... KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET .

Read more: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/g...tional-utility-solutions-5.html#ixzz21FQNvWSp
 
Is it just me who thinks there are striking similarities between the above and this one below?

Subject: Dear Respected One,

Dear Respected One,

GREETINGS,

Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by the recommendations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.

I am Wumi Abdul; the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Abdul. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal. When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother HASSAN special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2002 in a private hospital here in Abidjan. He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his first Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.

He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance his from the deal they had that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management). Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.

1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.

2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girl of 26 years.

Moreover Sir, we are willing to offer you 15% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas. please feel free to contact ,me via this email address
[email protected]

Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Wumi Abdul

PLEASE FOR PRIVATE AND SECURITY REASONS,REPLY ME VIA EMAIL:
[email protected]
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