newbie to the forum, needs advice on central heating

[spycatcher]

hi logburner, i do apreciate your advice and may well do as you suggest

i wasnt thinking particularly of getting a wood stove with a back boiler but if you think it would be worth it i will consider it

cheers

 

[diamondgas]

i was hoping you guys might help me to cut through the gobbledegook 🙂

Ask the questions spycatcher and you may get the answers .... You'll most likely get a bit of flack too but that comes with the teretory I guess 🙂

Reason i mentioned zoning is because all new installations require separating the heating system .. Kind of day time/night time areas of occupancy! Other must have's are thermostatic radiator valves, room thermostats for each zone and a means of timing when you want the heating on and off!

There's some gobeldegook removed 🙂 However vthere's a great deal more to instalation than just running a coup[le of pipes here and there IMO but I understand where you're comming from!

Get it right and you're in the good books, get it wrong and you're in the dog house!!! lol

 

[spycatcher]

yeh i feel like i'm walking a bit of a tightrope here 🙁

i do intend having thermostatic radiator valves on each radiator and will have a 7 day timer

i believe i have to have one radiator without a trv

i didnt know i had to have room thermostats too

i wish i had 10 - 15 grand to spare and sitting back and getting proffesionals in to do the whole job but i dont 🙁

 

[PlumbBobBob]

the separate room stats are to control the temps of the separate zones

 

[Rickster123]

yeh i feel like i'm walking a bit of a tightrope here 🙁

i do intend having thermostatic radiator valves on each radiator and will have a 7 day timer

i believe i have to have one radiator without a trv

i didnt know i had to have room thermostats too

i wish i had 10 - 15 grand to spare and sitting back and getting proffesionals in to do the whole job but i dont 🙁

10 - 15 grand?! I'd do it for 9!

 

[diamondgas]

Rom stats are important in that they're your main comfort control ... TRV;s are then individual room temp controls when the heating is on 🙂 Look at how you can section off (zone) your home for heating needs .... bedroom first thing and last thing is different to living area during the day! That's zoning spycatcher. You can have as many zones as you like to be honest! A trv is a kind of seporate zoning device ... 🙂

 

[spycatcher]

cheers steveb do the seperate room thermostats just wire straight into the worcester or do i need a seperate controller

wish i had 5 grand never mind 9 🙂

 

[spycatcher]

i get what your saying diamondgas just not sure how to wire it up 🙂

 

[diamondgas]

i get what your saying diamondgas just not sure how to wire it up 🙂

That'll come to you in time 🙂

Do a search on 'S'Plan heating systems or check out the honywell website ... some good advice on there regars wiring heating systems IMHO 🙂

 

[Atouchofgas]

Hi spy catcher as your property is in Scotland the building reqs are different than in england, zoning has not got this far yet! Just trvs and room stat as far as I am aware.

 

[TBServices]

hi tbservices, i do understand that, as i said in my previous post i do intend getting in a gas guy to check my work before it gets switched on

the only reason i picked a worcester was because there is a combi one in the house we are in at the moment and has given us no trouble whatsoever

the reason i came onto this forum was to get advice from proffesionals. what boiler would you suggest?

I personally would never sign off anyone else's work, it's not worth the risk. Don't take this the wrong way, but you're essentially asking someone to put their livelihood on the line so you can pay them the bare minimum. A little unfair as I see it.

I have an older worc combi and it's great, but the build quality has taken a nosedive and they aren't as good now. Ask ten installers what they recommend and you'll get ten different answers, I personally like Vaillant, but there's a lot of boilers I've seen people raving about here that I've never installed.


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[diamondgas]

Hi spy catcher as your property is in Scotland the building reqs are different than in england, zoning has not got this far yet! Just trvs and room stat as far as I am aware.

That's where local knowledge comes in handy 🙂 However, zoning is a good way of reducing costs IMHO 🙂

 

[diamondgas]

I personally would never sign off anyone else's work, it's not worth the risk.
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I agree TBServices ... My next suggestion to spycatcher was that he gets on board a local GSR who is happy to overlook his work and do the gas and boiler install! Pay some kind of consultancy fee for their expertise?

 

[Atouchofgas]

Agree with you dg but as spycatcher said he was trying to save some money I was only chipping in with my two pence, hope I have not caused any offence. Agree with tb also, find a gsr how is happy to help and give info for a fee

 

[spycatcher]

as i've said ealier i came to this site for profesional advice and if the consensus is i should get a registered gas fitter to fit and commision the boiler and do the rest myself then i will, i'm not trying to take the bread out of your mouths, just looking for advice

i'll look up the honeywell site and look into valiant boilers to

i do apreciate all your advice

 

[diamondgas]

Agree with you dg but as spycatcher said he was trying to save some money I was only chipping in with my two pence, hope I have not caused any offence.

Not at all Atouchofgas 🙂 I am as you are ... gasman/plumber helping out here 🙂 I was not aware that the regs were different in Scotland TBH, You'd have thought Scotish regs would have honed in on zoning B4 The London/English mob. It being a wee bit colder our neck of the woods 🙂

 

[diamondgas]

as i've said ealier i came to this site for profesional advice and if the consensus is i should get a registered gas fitter to fit and commision the boiler and do the rest myself then i will, i'm not trying to take the bread out of your mouths, just looking for advice

i'll look up the honeywell site and look into valiant boilers to

i do apreciate all your advice

Take the flack! 🙂

We're not here to dissuade you from doing as much as you can yourself spycatcher, It may pay however to get the boiler installer on board earlier rather than later, be dead upfront! If it were me I'd need to know that you'd done a decent installation before I put my name to it!

 

[Atouchofgas]

You would have thought so to, but most of the regs you guys have to adhere to are not applicable up here, poss we don,t like being told what to do! Lol

 

[spycatcher]

mibby i'll just go electric

save the grief 🙂

 

[diamondgas]

mibby i'll just go electric

save the grief 🙂

Check out the electricians forum ... you may find a few hurdles to get over there too spycatcher :lol:

End of the day you're the one choosing to DIY. Personally I think you've chosen the best forum to get knowledge ... Start the threads, make your decision on what you're advised and make your home the place you want it to be! My advice would be 'know your limitations and know when to get a professional in'!