newbie to the forum, needs advice on central heating

[tamz]

If your house layout suits the pipe runs it may be better to fit a twin coil cylinder, 1500 x 450mm, bigger if you have space, and fit a stove with a boiler.
If you use the stove much (which you probably will) that will effectively give you free hot water. It takes a lot of energy and gas to heat a tank of water. About 11.5kw/hr for 200 litres (90p¿ on lpg) so a saving of £250+ / year.
Things like this is why you should get a pro on board at the design stage where they will be more willing to participate and supervise and test and commission on completion.

Lovely part of the country btw :smile:

 

[dontknowitall]

Judging by my experience you don't want to ask anything in the Electrical forums unless you're a full blown qualified electrician. They guard their trade too much and feel everyone else is out to kill themselves.

 

[tamz]

Bit like us then :lol:

 

[dontknowitall]

We're plumbers.

Plumbers are the friendliest of all the trades!!

 

[diamondgas]

Except prostitution!! (wonder how long that'll stay here?) 🙂

 

[spycatcher]

thanks diamondgas, i'll keep plugging away 🙂

my background is computers / electronics, we tend to share info quite easily there, i didnt realise i would be treading on so many toes

tamz your suggestion of the twin coil system, would you be using one coil for the gas boiler and the other for the stove or are they all hooked up together

there is a wooded area up the back of the house, albeit on a steep slope, so plenty free firewood 🙂

 

[dancinplumba]

thanks diamondgas, i'll keep plugging away 🙂

my background is computers / electronics, we tend to share info quite easily there, i didnt realise i would be treading on so many toes

tamz your suggestion of the twin coil system, would you be using one coil for the gas boiler and the other for the stove or are they all hooked up together

there is a wooded area up the back of the house, albeit on a steep slope, so plenty free firewood 🙂

yes 🙂

 

[spycatcher]

cheers dancinplumba

do you know how the lpg deal works,

i get the idea that with calor if you lay the plinth and dig the trench they will come and fit the tank for free and a rental thereafter, at the same time install a boiler for x amount

are there other firms to try for a quote other than calor

 

[dancinplumba]

cheers dancinplumba

do you know how the lpg deal works,

i get the idea that with calor if you lay the plinth and dig the trench they will come and fit the tank for free and a rental thereafter, at the same time install a boiler for x amount

are there other firms to try for a quote other than calor

yes lots, imo calor are dear do a google search,
why not stick solar panels up generate your own leccy and fit ground source or air source heat pump in ?

 

[spycatcher]

i'll do a search then

i've looked at solar and ground source but not air source, never heard of it in fact, i'll look it up

the problem is the huge outlay, which i dont have and the fact i would prob be long deid before it paid for itself 🙂

 

[jtsplumbing]

Just be carefull with the Boiler install ! if you DIY you may come unstuck with your house insurance, same as any electrical work, it all needs to be certified and a certificate issued, unless it`s different in Scotland. ?

 

[spycatcher]

i dont know, there does seem to be a consensus of opinion that regs are different in scotland

more than likely i'll get a gas guy in to do the boiler install

you seem to get deals of fitting an lpg tank plus boiler plus install

i'll need to get some quotes and see what pennies i've got 🙂

 

[SafeGasInstall]

hi dancinplumba,

thanks for the reply, yes i do need to watch the pennies, hence i need to do it myself, not to mention i do need a project to keep me going 🙂

"watch the pennies " how ????????? if you can afford a house with a 20m hallway 3 bed and 3 showers bungalow ,then i dont think that you are out of cash at all

 

[Gray0689]

If you got a lot of free wood I'd fit a thermal store if the mains pressure is good/ mains pressure hot and cold water
Also zoning as I was aware is law everywhere now but I could be wrong
Zone1 living area circuit
Zone 2 bedrooms circuit
Zone 3 hot water only
This is the way it should be done even without the regs
Also yes need room stats to control the temp in different areas and trvs on rads except on rads that the room stats are in
Also if your going to have runs 20m long stick in an expansion loop for safe measure IMHO

 

[spycatcher]

as i said in my first post its an old house needing a lot done to it the 20mtr hallway is just the way its laid out and it wont have 3 showers untill i put them in myself

 

[spycatcher]

thanks for that gray0689, i appreciate the advice

 

[Gray0689]

Your welcome

 

[spycatcher]

just been looking up expansion loops, good idea cheers