Powder Flushing | Powder Flush Discussion - Steve Kukard Trademark Owner

[Rappid]

I'm a sparky looking for advice

I'm having problems with my heating system, I have googled power flushing and it came up powder flushing.
Is it really that good?
Anybody doing powder flushing?


Thanks.

 

[hydrotherm]

Hope were not talking illegal substances here !

 

[mrlennie]

interesting...

 

[Gray0689]

Sounds a good job

 

[PlumbBobBob]

bet it's not cheap though

 

[SafeGasInstall]

is that your invention ?

 

[Rappid]

No not my invention, just stumbled across it on google.
Just looking for someone who does this as my system desperately needs a power flush.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

strange that powder flushing doesn't come up for at least first ten pages (got bored of looking)

 

[SteveBall]

The powder is just a additive you add when power flushing,

claims to give extra cleaning,which it may do

however the problem is getting it all out afterwards as very difficult to get all out and the bits if left in could perhaps cause damage to controls in system, would not advise on domestic systems personally myself, you will find chemicals alone will do the job just fine.

Use Chemicals Always. They Work Well.
imho

 

[Rappid]

Steveb, I googled 'power flush hire' and it's the second link

 

[PlumbBobBob]

Steveb, I googled 'power flush hire' and it's the second link

i googled power flushing and it didn't come up. which is what i would have put in if i were looking for someone to do it for me. which reading back is what you said you did.

 

[Plumin]

From the website "100% of the abrasive is retrieved, leaving the system completely clean. After the abrasive has done its work, it dissolves into the system water and gets dump down the drain. The system water is then replaced with clean water and inhibitor added." Sound like it would work just fine.

 

[GerrythePlumber]

What's in this magic powder?
It sounds like its just washing powder.
If its not available, then it's not legal. How would you explain to your insurance company that some unknown substance was being used on domestic premises?
Theyr'e keeping a little secret methinks.
The only ones I can find who perform this service are Steve and his mates at the powerflush association.
If it's so good then why power flush at all.
They say the pump goes at 50 to 300 litres/ min. It must be huge.

 

[PowderFlush]

Powder Flush was specifically designed to overcome the shortcomings power flushing has in cleaning microbore systems and I can assure you that it does NOT cause leaks and in fact causes less leaks because we don’t have to use strong acidic cleaners. The powder and pellets we use are by design, just hard enough to scrape of hardened sludge but not so hard that it can cause leaks or damage. We have various sized pellets of different densities depending on pipe size and age of the system we are cleaning. We have performed hundreds of procedures on microbore, both copper and plastic and have a much higher success rate than trying to power flush them. It is true that standard power flushing is not all that effective on microbore and it is true that Powder Flushing will get better results. We know this because around 50% of our work is on systems where power flushing has already failed to get results, at least once.

 

[Old Account]

Personally I just do a chemical clean... power flushing microbore isn't worth the hassle.

I was with a customer a few months back and they said they saw something on the web about powder flushing for microbore (just found it here POWDERFLUSH ). Anyone heard about this?

Where can you get this powder ? Can you use the powder for a normal power flush machine ? Or do you need a new machine ?

 

[Old Account]

Powder Flush was specifically designed to overcome the shortcomings power flushing has in cleaning microbore systems and I can assure you that it does NOT cause leaks and in fact causes less leaks because we don’t have to use strong acidic cleaners. The powder and pellets we use are by design, just hard enough to scrape of hardened sludge but not so hard that it can cause leaks or damage. We have various sized pellets of different densities depending on pipe size and age of the system we are cleaning. We have performed hundreds of procedures on microbore, both copper and plastic and have a much higher success rate than trying to power flush them. It is true that standard power flushing is not all that effective on microbore and it is true that Powder Flushing will get better results. We know this because around 50% of our work is on systems where power flushing has already failed to get results, at least once.

Where can I get those powder for powder flush ? Is that possible to use it with a standrard power flush machine ? Or we will need to buy a different machine ? What's the cost like ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

POWDER FLUSH: Better cleaning than a power flush!

 

[Stanios]

The Powder Flushing® looks interesting.
I preffer Filling Loop Flushing™ myself..

 

[tommy1712]

I have heard of powder flushing but never done it of seen the chemicals etc but surely that's gunna :nono: your machine??????

 

[Rickster123]

You've joined but never actually done a powerflush???

Edit... Ahhhh I see powder flush....

 

[Rickster123]

Nothing to do with work then, just the kids eh?

Actually mate he's started sleeping through the night! It's changed my life!!

Anyway, powder flushing....

 

[Stanios]

First time. There are lots of sites on the net to give you a free UK Limited company check.

So we can see that powder flushing wasnt his first idea

 

[Jay Jay]

Pro flush powder is the bees nees works on cold flush!! Great bit of kit

 

[Best]

A magnetic filter on the return at boiler would remove any crud that is is suspension.
You could try some power flushing chemicals as said, like F5 Fernox and let the filter work.
At £1000 for powder flushing 10 rads, I would rather buy new rads

 

[Gasmk1]

think it may be their system so you have to pay them POWDER FLUSH prices: - http://www.WE DO NOT LINK TO THIS WEBSITE STEVE KUKARD OWNS/powder_flush_prices.html

its expensive !

 

[OffshoreGas]

think it may be their system so you have to pay them POWDER FLUSH prices: - http://www.WE DO NOT LINK TO THIS WEBSITE STEVE KUKARD OWNS/powder_flush_prices.html

its expensive !

Yikes! That's expensive. Must be quite hard on pipework etc, you'd want to be certain you got it all out.

Your not that far off the price of re-piping especially if you used MLCP or similar.

 

[Gasmk1]

I followedup by googling the business which doean't have a phone number (on google at any rate) and the photo there is on a council estate somewhere. There's a lot of advertising gone down for this business with big claims. None of the major companies as far as I'maware, are doing this and I seriously have to question the viability of the whole concept!

No phone number on the site eirther, none of the videos are very compelling rinse water round a bowl you would have added chemicals first before doing power flush and i cant see how you could guarantee that all their powder/pellets have been removed from the system. also do they also flush boiler i wouldnt imagine any manufacturers have been approached about any damage.

 

[Tasneem]

Yes, the plumber tried to balance the system. Even with all rads closed and just one open, those that usually never get warm do not heat up.

I don't have a confirmation that it is blocked as such. The plumber disconnected the radiator. He closed off other radiators in the loop. He then cut the plastic pipe that feeds that radiator about 5m away from the radiator. He used the vacuum cleaner to suck the air from the pipes but doing it one way (sucking by the radiator) did nothing. When he connected the vac to the other end of the pipes (where he cut it), there was a very slight suction in the pipe by the radiator.

The radiator was completely removed and the flow/return pipes were connected by a hose but there was no flow through it.

Did you solve the problem at all? We have the same issue and have been thinking for a couple of years how to solve it by avoiding repiping as msf flooring not floor boards. Looking at powder flush a new thing but can’t find reviews other than their website.

Really stuck so would appreciate your reply

 

[Admin]

This thread deserves a disclaimer.

Note that we are not pretending to be powder flush. We discuss both sides of any argument openly. The opinions of the people posting a post to a thread, are their own opinions, but only at the time of posting. As opinions can change over time.

I know the owner, Steve, has issues with this forum so is claiming we are losing him £1500 a day somehow. Can't see how that happens when their turnover isn't even that.

They own lots and lots of trademarks. But note that you ARE allowed to discuss and mention trademarks in natural discussion. And those who own trademarks should expect them to be talked about. Surely that's a good thing.

Continue discussing powder flush in your natural way. Be constructive if you have criticism. I'm sure Steve Kukard will appreciate genuine feedback positive or negative.