Scammed by training provider!!!

[Dumplumb]

Yeah thanks AlexGas. That's all I can do mate. Fingers crossed somebody will give me a chance.

 

[manix73]

Thank you Fuzzy.it s dificult to find somthing about QCF thx

 

[fuzzy]

qcf is brand new, centres are only just getting info

 

[Jim1]

Hi Dumplumb

Let me try and put this into some kind of perspective for you. The current 6129 is being replaced with the 6189, but not all centres are up to speed with the 6189 because C&G have extended the 6129 and 6089 until 31/7/12, so a lot of centres will still run this course until they have to change. The 6129 is broken down into 13 units, 12 theory and 1 large practical unit covering 60 assessments, then you have to go on site and complete the 6089 which is another portfolio of evidence. This needs to explained in detail when people register so you understand whats involved (and yes it does carry another cost). With both the 6129 and 6089 together, this gives a level 2 qualification.

The 6189 is broken down into 10 units to be carried out in workshop and 2 units on site. If you hold the 6128 tech cert it is transferable across to the new qual, but only gives units 1-8 because sanitation and rainwater systems have not been covered. You still have to go on site to complete the final 2 units which will give you the full level 2 qualification. If you can find a centre that runs the 6189 then you have a chance of completing your training to become a plumber. If you want to become a heating engineer only, the 6128 is still transferable without having to do the sanitation units and only 1 onsite unit is required.

The problem will be trying to find a centre willing to train you on the final elements, but good luck with your efforts, hope this helps

 

[fuzzy]

no funding for 19+ on 6129 though

 

[Jim1]

Colleges will run the 6189 for students up to 19 because they are on the QCF funded framework, private centres are not funded so will still run the 6129 NQF, forgot to mention that bit, sorry!!

 

[fuzzy]

yeh the fudning dont matter for them

 

[fuzzy]

and therefore the teaching is not checked for quality by OFSTED

 

[fuzzy]

the difference between teaching and getting somebody through an assessment to get a cert

 

[fuzzy]

in my opinion that is

 

[Jim1]

All Depends on the tutor, those with personal pride or those just getting a wage!

 

[fuzzy]

true but the centre or organisation are judged on different outcomes or agendas to a college. a college have to meet requirements set by awarding bodies, the funding agencies and OFSTED inspectorate. Full cost centres only answer to awarding organisations and therefore assessments

the ethos of both is different, this will filter down to individuals whether they like it or not

 

[Jim1]

Good point, but it still comes down to individual standards, i still use the word FAIL, which seems to be outlawed these days

 

[fuzzy]

do you mean 'not yet achieved'?

 

[rolycress@yahoo]

I also did the 6128 with NCS in 2011, now stuck with certs that can't lead to NVQ2 since 2013
Does someone know how I could upgrade without doing a full coarse to do the NVQ2

 

[1st4plumbingds]

Hi there, could some one "or 2" give me some advise on a training company called BROOKHOUSE TRAINING CENTRE. I am looking to take the gas course to get my ACS then register with GAS SAFE. has anyone heard of BROOK HOUSE TRAINING CENTRE, does anyone know if they are good or bad. They want quite a few ££££. And it would be a big decision to make the WRONG decision . Thanks

 

[Kay101]

Are you plumbing qualified ?

 

[Johnabbs]

Post Gas training Lomax wallsend
Hi everyone I am 33 from newcastle with little experiance I am currently deciding weather or not to take up a 6 mth course to become gas safe.
After 22 week course you get awarded BPEC gas foundation certificate.
ACS ccn1 & Cenwat certification.
After that you get a redused cost for further certification courses for appliances meters ect..
They pair you up with a corgi regestered gas fitter to complete your portfolio and at the end help you find employment.
Only thing is it's a £4500 course and a very big dission to leave my current employment and financial risk.
If there was any other way of getting the training I would happy do it.
I have always wanted to do this and will succeed no matter the time scale.
So now you know my story any feed back to weather this is a viable course If others have been down this route.
Is there a creeper way ?
They say they have a 100% pass rate with 97% of ex students in employment.
Any advice would be very much appreciated thanks. John.