Schedule of rates newbuilds

[leesparkykent]

Hi all, I was wondering if any of you kind Sirs could point me in the right direction...Does a schedule of rates exist for new builds? For example you can get schedule of rates for electrical work, x amount per meter of cable, x amount per meter of containment installed in different scenarios. I was wondering if something similar existed for plumbing and heating? Thanks Lee

 

[ShaunCorbs]

your looking around top end about 1k for first fix (plumbing and heating) and soils and around 250-300 for second fix

tbh theres not set amount just want the builders allow/pay

 

[leesparkykent]

your looking around top end about 1k for first fix (plumbing and heating) and soils and around 250-300 for second fix

tbh theres not set amount just want the builders allow/pay

Yeah I get that but I price lots of newbuild electrical work and there are guides to help out. I appreciate there are many variables etc but surely there must be something similar to the national schedule of rates?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah I get that but I price lots of newbuild electrical work and there are guides to help out. I appreciate there are many variables etc but surely there must be something similar to the national schedule of rates?

not that i know of

you thinking of doing the plumbing as well?

 

[leesparkykent]

not that i know of

you thinking of doing the plumbing as well?

It's very very early stages but we have the opportunity to take the work on for a reputable builder we've worked with for years. We are in negoations/talks With a good engineer/plumber we know to become a partner. We have the office, money in the bank, ability to get vans and the work etc so I'm just thinking out loud ATM really. Today I've just had the drawings dumped on my lap for a site of 30 houses, a block of 15 flats and a two very high end new builds (worth about 2 mill each when complete).

 

[ShaunCorbs]

if it pays and hes happy to watch over / do the plumbing side etc

go for it

 

[leesparkykent]

if it pays and hes happy to watch over / do the plumbing side etc

go for it

The only thing that really bothers me is he's always worked on firms so next to no experience on pricing etc.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

The only thing that really bothers me is he's always worked on firms so next to no experience on pricing etc.

he knows how long a job will take and you know the pricing side im sure you can work something out

 

[Darren Jackson]

Check out the latest edition of HUTCHINS PRICED SCHEDULES 2018. I swore by it when I started up some 15yrs ago. Helped me to price up all works not just plumbing. I still occasionally use my 2003 edition today for reference and just adjust the price to today's rates. But at the end of the day I have a set figure nowadays how much I like to make in a day or I don't bother.

 

[leesparkykent]

Check out the latest edition of HUTCHINS PRICED SCHEDULES 2018. I swore by it when I started up some 15yrs ago. Helped me to price up all works not just plumbing. I still occasionally use my 2003 edition today for reference and just adjust the price to today's rates. But at the end of the day I have a set figure nowadays how much I like to make in a day or I don't bother.

Thanks Darren, I'll take a look.

 

[sammathias]

your looking around top end about 1k for first fix (plumbing and heating) and soils and around 250-300 for second fix

tbh theres not set amount just want the builders allow/pay

1.3k for a full new build? Seems dirt cheap to me

 

[ShaunCorbs]

1.3k for a full new build? Seems dirt cheap to me

labour only

 

[king of pipes]

1.3k for a full new build? Seems dirt cheap to me

Agree with you there bud i have a colleague who does them 3-4k labour is more like it depening on build 2-3 bed, also dont forget they tie you into a maintenance contract to put any faults right that may occur over a 1 year period dont matter what the fault is its down to you to repair dont get caught out all the best kop

 

[sammathias]

Agree with you there bud i have a colleague who does them 3-4k labour is more like it depening on build 2-3 bed

I did some last year for 2.5k each and they didn't think twice about the price. Not sure what others charge in the area.

 

[jtsplumbing]

1.3k for new build labour only ! be out of business in under 12mths.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That figure came from a new redrow site

The smaller builders pay more

 

[Astasinim]

Going rate round my way for a 3 bed 2 bath house is about 4 - 4.5k, first and second fix for a small to medium developer. I`ve no idea about the nationals though.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

New build plumbers and heating engineers required

i remembered i saw some prices on here about guys looking for plumbers for new builds

expected to do two to three first fixes a week (or 2 and a second fix)

 

[leesparkykent]

If anyone else was interested I've also been recommended spons estimating guide but may be a little dated and luckins

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spons-Estimating-Costs-Plumbing-Heating/dp/0415386187

TSI Luckins HVAC & Plumbing Installation Times Guide - 9780591298535

 

[Jay Jay]

Hi guys just a quick post , I’ve been offered some new build work on the books paye , standard 3beds £320 per plot for 1st fix inc shower tray and soils, was told by the gaffers at company there doing 3 a week??? Which I’m surprised at but it’s labour only. Haven’t done new build for some time as I’m more of service and repair but thinking of mixing it up. Just wondered if it’s possible to do a 3bed in a day and a half on your own??

 

[Scott_D]

Plastic pipe?
Combi?
Zones?
How many bathrooms?

 

[Jay Jay]

Thanks for reply it’s plastic fantastic 3beds 1bath ensuite combi and 2 zone valve set up

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Day for first fix eg hot cold and heating and gas (long days)

Half a day for soils

 

[Scott_D]

Doesnt sound long enough to me.
Dont forget testing
The first batch you will be much slower til you get in the swing of things, Dont think I could do it that fast

 

[Jay Jay]

Thanks for reply I was looking at 2days but I thought it was pushing it a day or 1.5days, just want to mix my week up if possible just wondering what new build life is like

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Rubbish everything needs to be fast and no room for neatness

 

[sammathias]

Anyone can throw hep2o around a new build in a day and a half. It will be rough tho.

 

[Jay Jay]

I thought that had a chat with the guys at company and they have said would I be interested in full time maintenance, now that seems a good number but never new anyone who’s done it, I suspect it’s change taps/servicing/change pumps/zone valves etc. Been offered fair price but still unsure