Most of the guys around here are installing boilers using pressfit. Don't see how copper to copper fittings can void warranty, but I agree with you that there are boiler companies that will probably try it on just to get out of it.
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Another big plus for me with Yorkshire XPress are the chrome fittings. These press direct onto chrome pipe without having to remove the chrome or scribe the pipe. They look really good on a chrome towel radiator.
15mm fittings are keenly priced compared to others except soldered fittings which are always going to be cheaper than anything else. The price jumps with 22mm and above. Press fit can be used with water in the pipe, soldered fittings need dry pipelines. There is also no flux, solder or pipe compounds that can contaminate a plumbing system, or fire risk due to a gas torch.
The fittings are longer, not bulkier and look better, cleaner and neater than soldered, compression fittings or plastic fittings. They don't tarnish as heated fittings do, or require cleaning to remove flux and shine them up. The chrome fittings press directly on to chrome pipe without having to remove the chrome or scribe the pipe and look really good.
Press fit is not normally for under sinks and the like and is the reason why I use both Press fit and copper push fit fittings like Tectite and Cuprofit. There is a 45 degree attachment for the gun for tight spaces.
Straight onto imperial
And on a full install I saved around 2 days labour
And on a full install I saved around 2 days labour
Plus cleaning the fittings and pipe then fluxing then gassing then cleaning
Then x that by around 4-500 fittings adds up a bit
Imperial pipe there is a compression to press fit union. Just use a 3/4" green ring in the compression end.
There are loads of benefits to press fit over soldering. I've listed most earlier. One of the biggest is you can make joints with water in the pipe.
One big bonus is that because of the price of the press gun and kit, it's way beyond the scope of the average diy'er. I had a customer watching me using my AKKU press and he was amazed and very impressed. With diy'ers using speedfit and Hep etc. the less experienced ones who don't follow the M.I's and then have a fitting blow off have given it a bad name and made it very diy to most of us in the trade. With press fit, it's still very much in the scope of a professional plumber.
I bought my kit second hand from Ebay for 400 quid, so it's affordable. I'll be upgrading soon to a new one. I hear that many reps will refund the cost of the gun if you spend a decent amount on fittings with them.
I was wondering about the imperial question.
Still though...£1300 is a lot of dosh. But I bet it feels like getting yourself a gift when you first use it. Like ooooh look at it go!
Still though...£1300 is a lot of dosh. But I bet it feels like getting yourself a gift when you first use it. Like ooooh look at it go!
Let me know where you heard that😛
C
Ch4 plumbing
Just wait and see, some of the fitters we have followed mash the fittings up good and proper when they press!!
already out and slighting it
"6pm .. just packing up and BANG from the garage..... Damning stupid shitty Press stupid shitty bastard fittings .. 30 mins away to the nearest Screwfix ... Not my install - just back sorting out all original Plumbers issues 'and some'.... "
hmmm look ho far its in 😀
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Yes i can confirm its true , my friend was given a free geberit press gun after bluffing the rep about hiw much he rents out a press gun
Ohhh hhhh hhhhh hhhh no!
C
Ch4 plumbing
The worst thing about pressing that nobody has mentioned is if there's a problem you have to cut the fittings out and add in couplings to make up the difference!
Oh and there's a massive difference between pressing 15mm and 88mm!!!
Oh and there's a massive difference between pressing 15mm and 88mm!!!
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You have to cut out a soldered fitting if there's a problem. Tectite is also non demountable.
This is turning into a good wee thread. Keep the comments coming chappies
you could grind the fittings out and then put a new one in
C
Ch4 plumbing
If an endfeed fitting fails we would sweat off clean and replace, absolutely no way would we grind off a fitting, if your prepared to do that you might as well either Weld or solder in the 1st place.
If there's water in the system, then sweating off and replacing a soldered fitting is going to take a lot longer than cutting off a pressfit fitting with a multi tool and pressing a new one on in its place which will take a few minutes to do and can be done with water still in the pipe line.
It's not for everyone but after 35 years of soldering I prefer press fit and copper pushfit.
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