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Hi I write in despair.
I live in a mid terraced house with a ground floor extension on the back of the house housing the kitchen.

We have a downstairs bathroom with shower, sink and toilet.

For the past few weeks, we have been smelling a drain/sewer type smell from below the toilet and in the hallway. We have lived here for 10 years and the bathroom has been here that long. The downstairs bathroom is in the original part of the house on wooden floorboards (suspended) accessed from the hallway.

There is an AAV which just remains closed when flushing/not flushing (no change with a plastic bag over the top).

The water from shower, sink and toilet all drains fine and quickly as they should do, no gurgling or spluttering. The s-trap under the sink and shower have water in them and the toilet has water in it (i.e. does not loose overnight)

From the toilet, the soil pipe runs straight down under floor boards (3ft) and then bends into the extension where you can’t see it anymore, assuming it goes to man hole under the concrete kitchen floor.

Just under the bend before entering the extension the soil under the soil pipe bend seems damp but by no means wet – this may be normal or not, however the smell of the soil is as it would be in a garden (sorry, trying to be as informative as possible).

Could it simply be drain smells, coming out from the ground, is there something like a wax ring that might have failed in the toilet, could it be a crack in the soil pipe.

I am somewhat confused as the smell is intermittent, and no problem with flushing, however unsure as to why the AAV is not opening and closing.

The smell is more like drains/cat wee and not human waste.

Sorry for the essay but wanted to be as informative as possible. The wife is having nightmares about kitchen floor being dug up!!
 
I took the cap of the AAV but no smell from there. I also put a carrier bag over as read somewhere else and flushed the toilet but the bag did not inflate or deflate it stayed the same. Plus the smell seems to be coming from underneath the toilet. Having looked at the valve in the AAV there does not seem anything wrong with it.
 
I took of the AAV and there is no smell from the soil pipe. I also tested with a carrier bag and there was no inflation/deflation to the bag. There is not much wrong with the valve that I can see. The smell seems to be under the toilet. I am hoping there not to be a crack in the soil pipe. Nothing has changed to the toilet/fittings in the last 10 years.
 
If you can get access Maybe lift the man hole cover and see if it's backed up.

Hard to get to manhole as its under a wooden floor in kitchen. The flow after flush and when using the shower is as it should be, not slow or noisy. It's spot on. So I don't think there is a block.
 
Thanks yes. But ideally don't want to have to unglue and rip up floors (which go under kitchen units) if there is something else I may have overlooked.
 
Also, is it normal for the soil under the house meeting the new extension to be damp (and the soil smells of soil and not wast), this is about 3ft below the floor boards.
 
Our outside sink drain also smells a little - nothing too bad but similar to the smell under the WC. If there is a crack in soil pipe (all plastic) would there be any telling signs in the bathroom, all water flows as it should do. Really confusing and don't want to rip floor apart just yet.
 

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