Should removal of old system boiler be complete inc tanks?

[rizla01]

Just bought a property that needs lots of work doing so decided CH to be the first to start with.
Old system was 20yrs old so decided on a 35Kw Ideal boiler to be installed by a Gas safe installer.

Despite fairly shoddy work in places the boiler seems to function OK but when I went into the loft found a lot of pipes (still connected) and the black plastic tank, still with 3 inches of water in it, has been left in the loft and I have no idea where the pipes (15mm copper) are connected to.

Surely if its a replacement sys (Using old plumbing) should the loft not have been emptied by the installer for the price?

 

[Chuck]

What type (make, model) of boiler has been fitted and what does the pressure gauge on it normally read?

Was the quote for replacing the boiler and leaving the system as unvented? If so the expansion is still needed.

Or was it for replacing the boiler, sealing the system and removing redudant pipework and expansion tank? If so the F/E tank should have been removed.

 

[rizla01]

Yep the last one.

All pipes serving the old rads (all replaced) kept in place or re-positioned for the new and sealed Combi system installed - tank in loft redundant but just left in place. (as were the brackets from the removed radiators btw)

I have paid all but the last £200 which I think covers all work still in need of doing but I wont have him back in the house. His work is too shoddy. Boiler is commissioned and registered.

 

[Ric2013]

Yep the last one.

All pipes serving the old rads (all replaced) kept in place or re-positioned for the new and sealed Combi system installed - tank in loft redundant but just left in place. (as were the brackets from the removed radiators btw)

I have paid all but the last £200 which I think covers all work still in need of doing but I wont have him back in the house. His work is too shoddy. Boiler is commissioned and registered.

If you won't let him back at all, then you're on a bit of a sticky wicket, legally speaking, as you haven't given him a chance to make good. Also, if you feel his work is shoddy, then it could be seen as odd that you have paid the vast majority of the invoice.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Sounds like the guy was cheap as you’ve had problems and he’s left the tanks in

 

[rizla01]

If you won't let him back at all, then you're on a bit of a sticky wicket, legally speaking, as you haven't given him a chance to make good. Also, if you feel his work is shoddy, then it could be seen as odd that you have paid the vast majority of the invoice.

Yes I get that but it took 8 weeks for this person to complete the work and half way through informed me that he had never done a house install before (He is a heating engineer starting out on his own, I later learned) and that is evidenced in the mess he has made of ceilings, where feed & return go upstairs, and floorboards that have been mangled and then screwed in place with just a single screw in the centre of the board.

 

[rizla01]

Yes I get that but it took 8 weeks for this person to complete the work and half way through informed me that he had never done a house install before (He is a heating engineer starting out on his own, I later learned) and that is evidenced in the mess he has made of ceilings, where feed & return go upstairs, and floorboards that have been mangled and then screwed in place with just a single screw in the centre of the board.

The boards that were rendered unusable were subsequently replaced with board that were approx 1cm too narrow (He reckons I was being too fussy as the carpet covers them anyway lol)

 

[rizla01]

The boards that were rendered unusable were subsequently replaced with board that were approx 1cm too narrow (He reckons I was being too fussy as the carpet covers them anyway lol)

There are many faults but like I said lots of this wil be corrected when the other trades have been & gone

The guys an idiot so NOPE he is not crossing my threshold again.
I was asking re the tanks & remaining pipework as I will be furnishing Trading Standards with a breakdown of the issues I am saddled with because he should never be allowed to trade. He is a walking disaster

 

[rizla01]

Sounds like the guy was cheap as you’ve had problems and he’s left the tanks in

About the same price as 2 other quotes give or take £300 - he was mid priced

 

[ShaunCorbs]

About the same price as 2 other quotes give or take £300 - he was mid priced

Can we ask what figure he gave you ?

 

[rizla01]

Can we ask what figure he gave you ?

Yes it was £3700 for an Ideal 35 plus and 8 rads (which he insisted on getting '22' rads throughout.

 

[Scott_D]

Any pictures of the boiler and old cylinder cupboard?

 

[rizla01]

Any pictures of the boiler and old cylinder cupboard?

Sorry.
Property is around 10 mile away.

Any thoughts on the quote btw - I am in the South East.

 

[Scott_D]

Sorry.
Property is around 10 mile away.

Any thoughts on the quote btw - I am in the South East.

It would be impossible to say from the info given

 

[rizla01]

It would be impossible to say from the info given

Hmm. I did wonder why I was asked I must say.

 

[Scott_D]

Hmm. I did wonder why I was asked I must say.

It’s in the right ballpark I would say.
If it was a really low quote then there would be red flags and the bare minimum would be expected for the finished product which it sounds like you got

 

[rizla01]

It’s in the right ballpark I would say.
If it was a really low quote then there would be red flags and the bare minimum would be expected for the finished product which it sounds like you got

Ah Ok thanks for that.
He did inform me that the materials would be around £2500 which we paid up front but I think that might have been a bit top heavy.
Then again I am used to buying a Main 35 (10yrs back) for around £6 - £800 but I think that might be a trite low these days.🙂

 

[rizla01]

Anyone still following this might like to see some of the end result of the job I had done.
This is after receiving a text to say all complete.

Can I have the rest of my money now please (£400)

I hope he knows how to sing.

 

[rizla01]

Any pictures of the boiler and old cylinder cupboard?

I have now added a few pics.

Here is the tank still in the loft with all pipes remaining and the cupboard we intend using for storage where the the old tank was.

 

[Ric2013]

I take your point, old chap.

 

[Scott_D]

Some things are unavoidable such as a floorboard splitting or plasterboard crumbling as you try and create a hole.
But that looks like a generally rough/rushed job with no pride taken.