Slight gas leak (half MB)

[REDSAW]

Think we are missing the point here

You can test the existing installation with existing appliances fitted and are allowed a drop depending on pipe and meter size, this is a all combined drop, which is why you have different drop allowances

The test was carried out a drop was found, fill in paperwork and away you go


However, there have been further investigations, the drop has been isolated with cooker, pipework and other appliances most have been tested separately to show this

Therefore cooker should not have been reconnected however it was, there is no rule that says a appliance by it self can have any pressure drop therefore we have a appliance connected to the supply that should not be, thus supplier quite within their rights to cut off

So in answer to op, no you have no legal recourse and your attitude is questionable at best

imho

i got pulled for that today at gas center. isolate appliance test pipe work. drop at appliance cap boiler or fix valve on 1mb drop at appliance.?

 

[kirkgas]

i got pulled for that today at gas center. isolate appliance test pipe work. drop at appliance cap boiler or fix valve on 1mb drop at appliance.?

that isnt the mandatory procedure as per IGE/UP1B, it may be someones preferred option, i have seen a procedure written on a new install that you isolate appliances then testy pipes only then reinstate alpiances then retest to confirm where your leak is, but it doesnt need to be done that way, if you test everything and find no leak all is well, if you test my way and find a leak you need to start isolating things to trace so you do it whatever way you want, on existing there is NO statement anywhere telling you you MUST iso the appliances, however if you do so you are bound by the results, so if i choose to leave existing appliances connested and find up to 4/8mb drop i record it and leave everything on, as long as no smell or reprt of smell of gas

 

[mikegas]

Think we are missing the point here

You can test the existing installation with existing appliances fitted and are allowed a drop depending on pipe and meter size, this is a all combined drop, which is why you have different drop allowances

The test was carried out a drop was found, fill in paperwork and away you go

However, there have been further investigations, the drop has been isolated with cooker, pipework and other appliances most have been tested separately to show this

Therefore cooker should not have been reconnected however it was, there is no rule that says a appliance by it self can have any pressure drop therefore we have a appliance connected to the supply that should not be, thus supplier quite within their rights to cut off

So in answer to op, no you have no legal recourse and your attitude is questionable at best

imho

so your saying if you decide to trace a drop in pressure even if its within tolerance you have to repair or cap whether its on pipework or an existing appliance. I thought it can be left if its on the appliance?

 

[ic24]

the crux of the matter is how the 0.5mb leak was found, IF it was because there was a smell of gas reported at the appliance then it is right that it is disconnected, if the 0.5mb leak was found on a routine test for say the annual safety check AND the cooker is an existing appliance then it DID NOT NEED TO BE CAPPED, as you are allowed either 4mb or 8mb depending on the meter, with no smell or report of smell of gas etc, so give a wee bit more info on the background to the finding of the leak and i can confirm
the other side of the coin is that landlords get a pretty hard time for not complying with the regs and endangering tenants, this landlord seems to be over cautious to the extreme, however he may argue it is good practice to have no leak in his property, and who could argue against his safety stance,

Thanks. The 0.5 MB drop in gas pressure was found during a routine gas check. There was no smell of gas. A gas test was originally carried out last March and an 0.5 MB drop in gas pressure was detected. The gas test was passed as safe. The CORGI registered gas engineer wrote on the form "permissible drop of half MB in gas pressure".

Then last November the gas company contacted me again (on behalf of landlord) to carry out another routine gas test. Again there was no smell of gas. This also passed. I was told there was still half a MB drop in gas pressure but this is acceptable.

However the gas company contacted me the following day and said they needed to carry out more tests. An engineer came and on carrying out further tests said the half a MB drop in gas pressure was caused by my cooker (this is my appliance and not the landlord's) and not the gas pipes. He wanted to disconnect my cooker. I refused permission because I had been told on two occasions half a MB drop in gas pressure in permissible and I had been given forms to say the tests had passed. The landlord then called the National Grid who disconnected my cooker. The National Grid will disconnect anything causing a leak even if it is only half a MB.

I think the landlord (local authority - council accommodation) is being too cautious or as you say may be getting a hard time for not adhering strictly to regulations. I am trying to find out if I have the right to get my landlord to re-conntect my cooker. It seems such a minor matter to me.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

safety first, don't you think 0.5 mbar over the minutes of the hour , over the hours of the day,over the days of the month it will build up enough to blow you up ,and the rest of your street !!!

What is wrong with you !!!!!


oh yes ,what is this slight leak of gas ???????🙄🙄🙄🙄😕😕😕😕😕😕

 

[ic24]

safety first, don't you think 0.5 mbar over the minutes of the hour , over the hours of the day,over the days of the month it will build up enough to blow you up ,and the rest of your street !!!

What is wrong with you !!!!!

If it is that dangerous I think my gas cooker would have been immediately dis-connected back in March 2010 when the half MB drop in gas pressure was detected! I also suspect if the appliance belonged to the landlord it wouldn't have been dis-connected.

 

[stevetheplumber]

half a mb on a cooker is fine if there has been no smell of gas most old cookers loose preasure around the tap spindles thats why we have the permitted drop
however i recently had a row with comets on the phone a newly installed cooker was loosing 2mb instal sound without the cooker fited and they didnt think they should replace it

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I had one on new gas hob 6mbar and did keep going ,dont remember what make (cheap one) had to strip the hob down to fined one of the tubes feeding the burner as it was coming from the tap was absolutely loose