Statute of Limitation

[locatealeak]

Anyone on here know what the statute of limitation is on work carried out on a property, iv'e heard it say that it could be 10 years, some say its for life.

It would be interesting to know how long we are all liable for the poor quality copper sold around the merchants these days.

 

[stevetheplumber]

answer is dont buy poor quality copper

 

[locatealeak]

That was helpful, the question still remains though, doesn't it !

 

[snowhead]

iv'e heard it say that it could be 10 years, some say its for life.

That quote must have come from another forum.

If it was anywhere near that long there would be queues of people trying to back claim and a whole new sector of no win no fee chasers.

 

[plumber0808]

Depends on what you base it on, fittings and workmanship I would say 12 months, after that then it is unfortunate but how long do you cover them for?
A boiler fitted illegally would lead to prosecution maybe years after installation due to it going unnoticed until it does some harm.

 

[lame plumber]

I understand that the statute of limitations applies to criminal acts, if your plumbing constitutes a criminal act then its probably around 12 years, unless theres a sexual element and its unlimited!

"Britain is unique in Europe in that it has no Statute of Limitations for serious sexual crimes. This means that someone can be arrested, charged and convicted for a crime that they committed half a century ago, even though many witnesses may be dead, memories are faded and the only evidence is the word of the alleged victim."

your warranty is what ever you like. However the law supports the customer in that they can have reasonable expectations as to how long something should last and in the civil courts that comes down to you and the judge coming to an agreement!

 

[justlead1]

As a young man at the age of 18 to supplement apprenticeship wage it fitted parkray 77's. etc of a weekend. It was constant at that time as the whole place had been turned in to a smokeless zone (a dislike of open fire/back boilers)
Whilst visiting a few months ago. (A place i left 35 years earlier) i was approached by a guy and his wife who thanked me for fitting a Parkray and singing the praises of this system. They were both in there late eighties and living in the same house, i am 65. I do hope that helps to answer your question, some go better than others.
Good Luck

 

[Rickster123]

Great to see you back on the forum justlead1!

 

[lame plumber]

As a young man at the age of 18 to supplement apprenticeship wage it fitted parkray 77's. etc of a weekend. It was constant at that time as the whole place had been turned in to a smokeless zone (a dislike of open fire/back boilers)
Whilst visiting a few months ago. (A place i left 35 years earlier) i was approached by a guy and his wife who thanked me for fitting a Parkray and singing the praises of this system. They were both in there late eighties and living in the same house, i am 65. I do hope that helps to answer your question, some go better than others.
Good Luck

brilliant. they just dont make them like that anymore

 

[Subby]

answer is dont buy poor quality copper

Is there such thing as poor quality copper? I thought all pipe had to follow british standards?
Although, to be fair the modern 15mm tube does seem to be a lot thinner walled than the old half inch.

 

[justlead1]

Thanks for your kind words.
As a PS. to post They were the days of copper tube BS659. Yes your right. You took some out one day and thought corr they were the days (Well they were. Plumbers were never skint up to 2" was readily available, often cut to bag length to obtain maximum efficiency) Reminiscing again.

 

[Veggie Dave]

Anyone on here know what the statute of limitation is on work carried out on a property, iv'e heard it say that it could be 10 years,

You mean the guarantee. In France your work is guaranteed by law for ten years (assuming you're a legal trader), here it's what an average person would consider to be reasonable, and that's for everything. For us, that usually means 12 months, although certain items, such as boilers, would be reasonably expected to last longer than one year. Of course, it also depends on the fault.

Oh, and what poor quality copper? I've never had copper pipe that I've fitted fail...

 

[tamz]

Thanks for your kind words.
As a PS. to post They were the days of copper tube BS659. Yes your right. You took some out one day and thought corr they were the days (Well they were. Plumbers were never skint up to 2" was readily available, often cut to bag length to obtain maximum efficiency) Reminiscing again.

One of my "jobs" as a boy when it was getting near the holidays was to cut a foot off every bundle of pipe and tape the cap back on. The gaffers never noticed the 19ft lengths, or maybe they did and never let on.

Good to see you back Peter.

 

[Mike Jackson]

I've had a couple of instances of copper pipe with pinholes in when I've fitted it. There was a lot of poor quality pipe imported in the seventies. It had a seam down the length and was prone to rotting through on the seam.

I find the quality of continental tube is not as good as British tube. It still does the job okay but seems harder and is not so easy to work.

 

[plumber0808]

I've had a couple of instances of copper pipe with pinholes in when I've fitted it. There was a lot of poor quality pipe imported in the seventies. It had a seam down the length and was prone to rotting through on the seam.

I find the quality of continental tube is not as good as British tube. It still does the job okay but seems harder and is not so easy to work.

Tru weld pipe, before my time mind you. See it every now and then

 

[Kimou]

Is there such thing as poor quality copper? I thought all pipe had to follow british standards?
Although, to be fair the modern 15mm tube does seem to be a lot thinner walled than the old half inch.

That was something to do with Zimbabwe and Mugabe's take over. A lot of British interest's nose got put out of joint on that one namely the copper ore. So we had to find other sources due to embargoes etc and here we go- R220/250/290.

 

[Kimou]

Maybe they can indict you over previous works- it's their prerogative. I doubt they'd get very far if a long time has since passed and they had good service from that product. Perishable parts, wear and tear are good get-out clauses.

 

[locatealeak]

Thanks for those replies everyone, to be honest the mention of poor quality copper was more rhetorical than fact but simply used as an example, i think Steve the Plumber didn't quite understand, although we all know who to buy our copper from in future:winkiss:
I would have thought that if someone came back to any of us having carried out specific works, even though a warranty or guarantee may have expired, if that person mentioned the words 'unfit for purpose' to a contracts lawyer, he would have a field day, years down the line.
Just me being a bit cynical maybe ? I certainly know that retailers have a statute that they have to abide to up to six years from sale of goods.
Mmmm.