Toilet waste lower than soil pipe

[ShaunCorbs]

What’s going on the floor ?

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

Rubber roll which is 3mm and I think it can be laid directly on the concrete, so won't in itself raise the floor much.

 

[rpm]

1.5 days to install this new toilet - see front pic attached

So install new toilet pan & cistern to existing pipes - Yes?
Wooden boxing around new toilet -Yes?
Replace basin & taps in original postion -Yes?
Remove existing flooring?
Any other work? Lights & switches?

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

So install new toilet pan & cistern to existing pipes - Yes?
Wooden boxing around new toilet -Yes?
Replace basin & taps in original postion -Yes?
Remove existing flooring?
Any other work? Lights & switches?

Yes, everything, but 1.5 days was in reference only to installing new toilet pan & cistern to existing pipes, everything else took extra time and cost.

 

[rpm]

Yes, everything, but 1.5 days was in reference only to installing new toilet pan & cistern to existing pipes, everything else took extra time and cost.

Erm, where did you find this plumber. Was is a local website such as Mybuilder? Guess he hit the problem and couldn`t figure out a better way of getting around said problem.
Did they say nothing at all to you about it before they left, take it you`ve paid them and they aren`t taking your calls now.

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

I'm having quite a bit of work done so it is my contractor's guy (found the contractor on Mybuilder). I think you are right. He didn't say anything about it during the installation and is now insisting it is fine. I just wish that when he realised there was a problem he had not gone ahead with the installation and got me to return the toilet and order one that worked for the situation.

 

[SimonG]

My guess is not a plumber. Anyway, whats behind the boxing?

 

[townfanjon]

Apologies if its been mentioned , the first thing a pro would do when fitting a new toilet, is measure / suss out the outlet .

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

My guess is not a plumber. Anyway, whats behind the boxing?

The cast iron soil pipe stuck out from the wall by quite a lot, and because this can't be moved we had to have a box to meet the back of the toilet/cistern.

 

[SimonG]

Could have been cut back! Not hard work.

As TFJ said above, first thing with any bathroom is the wc soil pipe. Dictates your toilet or the amount of work required to get a toilet to fit.

I've seen a piece of ply cut to same size as wc footprint, sanded, filled and painted white. Not done it myself though.

 

[rpm]

Could have been cut back! Not hard work.

As TFJ said above, first thing with any bathroom is the wc soil pipe. Dictates your toilet or the amount of work required to get a toilet to fit.

I've seen a piece of ply cut to same size as wc footprint, sanded, filled and painted white. Not done it myself though.

As above, seen wood underneath but this one was same shape as the footprint but slightly larger allowing the top 20mm to be chamfered to the size of the pan, it was then stained and varnished and looked good.

 

[WC1]

I'd use marine ply For under the pan not wbp - worth it in the long run you really don't want to be revisiting it.
Get your mybuilder chappy to fit?
Normal wbp doesn't do so well long term.

 

[JCplumb]

Raised a few loos with plinths in my time looks good if you get it right.
You really don't want a wall hung pan on anything other than a solid wall in my opinion. What is the wall behind the boxing made of?
If you can get a frame in there like a Geberit one then happy days but you will be paying a lot more than you have so far.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Have not read all the post so apologies if you have answered this ready is that 4” at 45degrees out the wall?

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

The soil pipe does come out of the wall at an angle, I've taken couple pictures inside the box.

 

[rpm]

If you were to use slightly more than average toilet paper every flush I reckon you might cause a blockage before the roll of paper reached the end 😉

All in the name of testing of course 😛

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

So if we raise the floor, or put the toilet on a plinth, will all my problems be solved? Also get a shorter pipe to fix the kink in the clean water pipe.

We also wanted the toilet more to the right (when looking at it straight on) and my contractor says this will need an angled pipe (replacement of the black connector). The old toilet used to be more to the right, with an angled connector so hopefully this shouldn't cause a problem.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

TBH I would get a proper plumber in

 

[rpm]

TBH I would get a proper plumber in

After seeing the photos and the OP`s comment about where the old toilet was postioned before I agree.

 

[Old UKPF 106712]

Can I just tell my contractor to raise the floor, straighten the clean water pipe, use a non flexi waste connector and buy an angled connector to move the toilet to the right?