Twyford WC

[Leoki]

Hello

I need to do some work on a Twyford toilet, the toilet is at least 10 years + old and is closed coupled. The toilet has not been used for a couple of years and the syphon does not operate when you use the lever to flush.

Looking at the syphon the height from the bottom to the top is about 13 inches. The cistern appears to be secured to the pan by 4 x bolts with wing nuts which appear to go through the bottom of the cistern and through into the pan.

Although the cistern sits on the pan i am a bit concerned about the securing arrangement, its not like the more modern style close coupled system with a securing plate it just looks like the the cistern and pan are secured by the use of 4 bolts.

Has anyone done work on toilets of this type, is there anything that i should be careful about when disasembling the cistern to get to the syphon which i am sure needs to be replaced.

With regards to the syphon itself, i have only seen syphons heights up to 10 inches tall in the local merchants, has anyone come across them any bigger, e.g 13 inches ?

🙂

 

[tipintim]

Sounds like its a syphonic. Bin it.

 

[tipintim]

water regs now say that a 6ltr flush should be in place.
Correct me if in wronge, but i would bin it. They a nitemare

 

[kay-jay]

water regs now say that a 6ltr flush should be in place.
Correct me if in wronge, but i would bin it. They a nitemare

you need to be careful when retro fitting a 6l valve to a 9l pan as they often don't flush/clear the crap away as the pan is designed for 9l flush

 

[tipintim]

Im not fitting it

 

[WHPES]

It is probably just the syphon film flap. Should all come apart easily enough but be careful not to break the syphonic tube at the bottom of the syphon. You could say to the customer that you will try your best but you can't guarantee you will be able to fix it. Advise replacement if not possible to repair.

 

[Leoki]

WHPES, i think the toilet is probably more like 20 years old, i presume i would proceed to dis-asemble in the same was as a conventional close coupled toilet but taking care with the fittings that are there at the moment. Hopefully it will just be a new syphon film flap but i will not know until i have the bits apart. The bit i was concerned about was the 4 x fixing nuts through the cistern into the pan, not come across this type of arrangement before. I presume that there will be a donought type seal/flange inbetween the cistern and the pan compressed down by the 4 x fixing nuts ?

 

[WHPES]

It might be a diaphragm as opposed to a flap. The flap one I remember is like an elongated D shape with a hinge at one end. In any case you need an old fertiliser sack and a pair of scissors!

 

[turnpin]

Could try H.James at Manor Park London E12 great for older spares although pricey try to cover yourself by explaining old unit may break and require replacement good luck🙂regards turnpin