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Passed with flying colours, as easy as pie.
Now I look back, dont know what I was worried about.
Now I look back, dont know what I was worried about.
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Passed with flying colours, as easy as pie.
Now I look back, dont know what I was worried about.
You do a written exam, all answers in book, u get 3 chances to get right answer, 100 percent pass rate. Then list the components, look in the book and copy. Work out D2 sizes. Then go and look at a cylinder full of faults, it is really really hard to fail
I still have no idea what so ever what the 9 M rule is ?? I have had a look at my 2 tapes one is 5M & the other is only small being just 3M even if I use em both I can't make 9 so what is it Gray ???And know you know the 9metre rule jase lol
After such a poor experience at this training centre you of course will not be going back to them will you SimonG ? & will tell others just how poor the training was ?My unvented was a mare. Full day course, paid upfront, no reading material but I had fitted a couple. Anyway turned up at 8.30, spent 45 mins on admin, went through a powerpoint presentation, seen the photos of one wall left in the house when it goes wrong, quick cup of tea, quick practical, 27 multiple choice questions at 11.30, back in the van and on the way home for 11.50. Didn't learn anything that wasn't already in the MI's. So slightly poorer, cost of course, diesel to get there and back, lost earnings and certification. But now(last 18 months) I can legally work on unvented cylinders. Really looking forward to my refresher in 3 1/2 years time to continue on this lucrative path. 🙂
I see Gray it is just the D2 pipe sizing, page 7 of what though ? & D2 over here does not now have to be a metal pipe but cant be certain types of plastic.Discharge pipe (D2)
This pipework runs from the tundish to the termination point.
It is supplied by the installer and must be installed correctly for both safety and design considerations.
It must be terminated in a safe place where there is no risk to persons in the vicinity of the discharge.
It must be of metal and capable of withstanding the temperature of the discharged water.
It must be at least one pipe size larger than the nominal outlet size of the safety device unless its total equivalent hydraulic resistance exceeds that of a straight pipe 9 metres long. If the total equivalent resistance length is in excess of 9 metres see sizing of D2 copper discharge pipe for common temperature relief valve out sizes on page 7.
After such a poor experience at this training centre you of course will not be going back to them will you SimonG ? & will tell others just how poor the training was ?
Just like all other areas of life there are good & bad. Market forces should be brought to bear, you could alway complain if not to the centre themselves then to the awarding body it is not in their interest to have unsatisfied customers either.
As I have said before my local one fortunately is very good, 8.30 start 15min paperwork then power point till tea (9.45) bit after than out into the workshop looking at the different units & packages & other bits, then they had a rig that showed all the safety valves working including the Temperature relief going off, then lunch & back into the classroom going through the rest including the calculations etc. Exam started around 2'ish I think & we were out of there by 4PM.
Loss of a day's money + the cost but did learn loads, so not so bad.
Preciously my point, thanks kirkgas (from the horses mouth as it were).Change of material for D2, and now allowed to use hep2o self seal valve Dow allows connection to internal stack,I've done a few reassessment guys lately and they are moaning about having to redo the course but they don't know about the changes and have forgotten about sizing the D2 so they don't help the cause for saying reassessment isn't needed
Or could it possible be that when Part G of the building Reg's changed in 2010 (& it was publicised in the trade press) only a few silly people like me bothered to down load it (all free of charge) & read it to find out what was now required by the law ?why do you need to do a reassessment just because you can now use plastic pipes and hepVo valves why can't the sponging training centers send out an amendment for us to read or do they think it needs to be drummed into us, It couldn't possibly be because they want to relieve you of another £200.00 for a half day course could it:wink_smile:
Ive attended the training total waste of time whats the point in a course with an exam at the end that nobody fails FYI I'v also taken water regs, working at eights, Solar thermal, Solar PV heat pumps 17th edition & 2391 inspection & test so before you pass comment Chris Watkins can I suggest you take a running jump
what is the name of the new all in one valve?
what is the minimum incoming pressure for an unvented cylinder?
what can you do if there isnt enough pressure coming in to the property?
what do you do if a component is not working and you cant get a replacement for 3 days?
Combination valves are not new jase
Min is about 1.5 bar but that can also be dependent on flow rate also
Depends on component jase lol
How many cylinders you fitted in your time jase
Would be interested if you could answer just the two questions in post 56 in just your 10 mins Gray ?The things that have changed on unvented in last 10 years could be learnt in 10 mins
is it not post 46 chris ?Would be interested if you could answer just the two questions in post 56 in just your 10 mins Gray ?
but more to the point your continued suggestion that there is no need for training or assessment in this area may give the impression to those that do not have it, that there is no need to & they will start working with these systems & that can not be a good thing can it ????????????????
How many un-vent HW systems do you go out to where there are no installation faults ??
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