Unvented wiring .

[EvilDrPorkChop]

I am no sparks , is it acceptable to use the one perm live and split to supply both 2 ports ? Assuming there is one lol

Yeah you can use the same live, you don't need separate lives for each valve.

 

[townfanjon]

Yeah you can use the same live, you don't need separate lives for each valve.

Sound , after all this I am praying theres a Hw off wire , assuming yes I will go S-plan , cheers

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Here you go.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

wire the port valve into the stat but you need a neutral

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

wire the port valve into the stat but you need a neutral

Isn't as simple as that unfortunately. As the HW Stat on a 3 port fires the boiler when it's just HW only. If the heating was running on the 3 port (So Live on the Orange wire on the 3 port) , it would back feed and hold the HW 2 port valve open. Therefore defeating the object of a thermal cut out.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Isn't as simple as that unfortunately. As the HW Stat on a 3 port fires the boiler when it's just HW only. If the heating was running on the 3 port (So Live on the Orange wire on the 3 port) , it would back feed and hold the HW 2 port valve open. Therefore defeating the object of a thermal cut out.

how would it as the 3 port wouldnt be wired to the stat

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

As the HW Stat is wired to fire the boiler (HW on to Common on stat, then 1 to S/L on boiler). Then the Orange wire for CH only on the 3 port is wired into the boiler at the same terminal (So your S/L on the boiler). So when you wire your additional 2 port into the 1 terminal on the HW stat (So that the 2 port closes when the stat breaks) if there is still a feed on the S/L to the boiler from the heating side the 2 port valve would still have a live feed and stay open.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

As the HW Stat is wired to fire the boiler (HW on to Common on stat, then 1 to S/L on boiler). Then the Orange wire for CH only on the 3 port is wired into the boiler at the same terminal (So your S/L on the boiler). So when you wire your additional 2 port into the 1 terminal on the HW stat (So that the 2 port closes when the stat breaks) if there is still a feed on the S/L to the boiler from the heating side the 2 port valve would still have a live feed and stay open.

no it wouldnt

perm live to stat in

stat out to brown eg port valve open

neutral and earth the same done

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

no it wouldnt

perm live to stat in

stat out to brown eg port valve open

neutral and earth the same done

Yeah, and the stat out also would have to go to boiler S/L. So if your S/L on the boiler is live from another source, so the heating. The valve would still be live and hold open.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah, and the stat out also would have to go to boiler S/L. So if your S/L on the boiler is live from another source, so the heating. The valve would still be live and hold open.

No not with a safety stat 3 port doesn’t get wired to the stat

 

[chris watkins]

Every unvented manufacturer will provide a wiring diagram in their instructions for the use of the 3 port mid position valve & the required 2 port that must be installed with it. This is required as under fault conditions there could be an open pathway from the heat source to the cylinder allowing the cylinder temperature to go above 100deg C.

The only exception to this, to my knowledge, is Vaillant who applied & got a dispensation so long as their boiler & cylinders are used together as a package.
Megaflo one below Jon, whats the cylinder?

 

[Coby kenny AGUILAR]

Strange request for Easter Sunday lol , its just

 

[townfanjon]

Every unvented manufacturer will provide a wiring diagram in their instructions for the use of the 3 port mid position valve & the required 2 port that must be installed with it. This is required as under fault conditions there could be an open pathway from the heat source to the cylinder allowing the cylinder temperature to go above 100deg C.

The only exception to this, to my knowledge, is Vaillant who applied & got a dispensation so long as their boiler & cylinders are used together as a package.
Megaflo one below Jon, whats the cylinder?
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I didnt know about the Vaillant Chris , as far as I knew it was only Viessmann, on the 200’s its just a probe that plugs in to the board and the other end goes into the stat pocket .
Cylinder isn't chosen yet for this job yet , she will leave it up to me . Its just a shame the boilers a mile away from the cylinder .