Woolwich killing

hammers4spanner · May 30, 2013

C- must try harder

Howsie · May 30, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
C- must try harder

Doesn't exist I guess?

hammers4spanner · May 30, 2013

doubt you even looked

Howsie · May 30, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
doubt you even looked

I've searched twice and nothing has come up. It is reasonable of me to assume it doesn't exist.

Howsie · May 30, 2013

Howsie said:
Which mum are you talking about? I'm slightly confused.

Not answered.

Howsie · May 30, 2013

Howsie said:
Re. your first statement: I did not know that and haven't read that. Where have you read this?

Not answered.

hammers4spanner · May 30, 2013

refer 188-276-248

Gray0689 · May 30, 2013

Howsie said:
Not answered.

You don't read much then
Scroll up I said mum = human
Answered

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Gray0689 said:
You don't read much then
Scroll up I said mum = human
Answered

I do but I couldn't make head nor tail of it. Who's mum isn't?

Howsie · May 31, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
refer 188-276-248

Which is?

hammers4spanner · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
Which is?

your media views

Gray0689 · May 31, 2013

Post 337
Replace mum an with human

Howsie · May 31, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
your media views

Which are?

hammers4spanner · May 31, 2013

read them its in writing

refer to 188-249-276

unless you wish to back track

Howsie · May 31, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
read them its in writing

refer to 188-249-276

unless you wish to back track

Ahhhh they are post number?

Howsie · May 31, 2013

188 - already proved not to be true.

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
Ahhhh they are post number?

Or maybe they are not.

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Originally Posted by hammers4spanner

They did do this with the bnp and it turned out the majority of the names linked had absolutely no link's what sp ever to the bnp . This anonymous lot are a bincj of dangerous idiots

Howsie said:
Re. your first statement: I did not know that and haven't read that. Where have you read this?

So I can't find any information on the net regarding this. You say it's true and yet you can't show me a link.

Wind and sails.

Keefy · May 31, 2013

Just found this but can't be bothered reading it, just woke up. BBC NEWS | Politics | Griffin says leaked BNP list fake

May find another article on whether it was [mostly] fake or not here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...ce=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2009,cd_max:2012&tbm=

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Ta. That link doesn't seem to work on my phone so I'll have a look later at home.

Keefy · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
Ta. That link doesn't seem to work on my phone so I'll have a look later at home.

Might be because I use the Firefox browser. Anyway, just put in your search term and set a custom date range like 2009 to 2012 or something it omits recent search results.

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Keefy said:
Just found this but can't be bothered reading it, just woke up. BBC NEWS | Politics | Griffin says leaked BNP list fake

May find another article on whether it was [mostly] fake or not here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...ce=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2009,cd_max:2012&tbm=

Sorry but if anything, all I can find is date which suggest it was true. Wikileaks' 10 greatest stories - Telegraph

hammers4spanner · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
Sorry but if anything, all I can find is date which suggest it was true. Wikileaks' 10 greatest stories - Telegraph

suggests can you find truth please?

revert to your earlier posts regarding your views on media please

Howsie · May 31, 2013

Well I've yet to find anything substantial the WikiLeads has reverlas that isn't true; would kind of shoot themselves in the foot don't you think? Couple that with the it's on their top ten, I think I rest my case.

The whole point of me asking in the first place is because people don't question anymore, just read the headline and assume it's fact. The fact that I can only find a line to the NF saying its crap tells me it's true.

I'm all for reasoned debate and there hasn't been for the last few pages.

The defence rests. :earmuffs:

Keefy · May 31, 2013

The news channels and newspapers we have in this country are constantly trying to manipulate the way we think and tell us who and how we should judge. Whenever I read or watch the "news" I take it with a pinch of salt and cross reference several sources on the same piece of news. Most of the time I come to the conclusion that our beloved and un-controlled news outlets are a lying bunch of evil *******s.

Howsie · May 31, 2013

They are indeed and they thrive on unsubstantiated headlines. A friend of mine works for a tabloid and there is loads of stuff you wouldn't believe that is suppressed because the perp 'knows' people. IMHO news should be read holistically and an opinion formed from there, sadly most people believe what they read from one source and their opinion is set in stone and they will defend it beyond all reason.

Q.E.D.

hammers4spanner · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
Well I've yet to find anything substantial the WikiLeads has reverlas that isn't true; would kind of shoot themselves in the foot don't you think? Couple that with the it's on their top ten, I think I rest my case.

The whole point of me asking in the first place is because people don't question anymore, just read the headline and assume it's fact. The fact that I can only find a line to the NF saying its crap tells me it's true.

I'm all for reasoned debate and there hasn't been for the last few pages.

The defence rests. :earmuffs:

A change of tune from earlier posts then

beep beep beep

Howsie · May 31, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
A change of tune from earlier posts then

beep beep beep

Explain please.

hammers4spanner · May 31, 2013

your earlier posts about media supressing and fabricating lies ,

now you decide its true??

what exactly is your defence?

defence of?

Howsie · May 31, 2013

hammers4spanner said:
your earlier posts about media supressing and fabricating lies ,

now you decide its true??

what exactly is your defence?

defence of?

Because you can't suppress the Internet and there isn't anything I've read to support your point.

Keefy · May 31, 2013

Howsie said:
They are indeed and they thrive on unsubstantiated headlines. A friend of mine works for a tabloid and there is loads of stuff you wouldn't believe that is suppressed because the perp 'knows' people. IMHO news should be read holistically and an opinion formed from there, sadly most people believe what they read from one source and their opinion is set in stone and they will defend it beyond all reason.

Q.E.D.

Know a couple of journalists/writers myself, one of whom used to do the local papers' articles on Liverpool FC but unbeknown to most people he's actually a die-hard Everton fan. Works for the Daily Liar now.

Another thing is most people take the 'breaking news' as fact and forget to check months or years later the little two paragragh side column that completely blows a hole in the original 'breaking news STORY'. All but one (maybe two?) 'thwarted terror attack by the FBI' on US soil since 9/11 has ended in admissions that they carried out the attempted attack themselves - sting operations if you like, except using innocent people.