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Inverness

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Hi guys, which combi from the Worcester models that give the best flow rate on the hot water? The boiler will be installed in the loft. What's your views on the Worcester 30si? 3 bedroom bungalow and 1 bathroom property.
Any recommendations are welcomed.
 
I was thinking of the older 30 cdi not the new 8000 model.
 
I wouldn't fit a boiler in a loft I know it's perfectly acceptable but think about it its freeing cold up there in the winter, boiling hot in the summer boiler components hate temperature extremes, the regs state a permanent walk way and hand rail ,fixed ladder, wired in light, isolation of the water and gas out of the loft , and a means of filling and monitoring the system pressure again out of the loft , no way of adjusting the boiler controls without getting in the loft , freezing condense pipework is a risk, any leakage will damage the fabric of the home and possibly flood it ,should the boiler fail and need a manufacturers repair many will refuse if it's installed in a loft so many negatives ? there's always a alternative.

Worcester Combi boilers are no better or worse than any of the other top makes in my opinion. Cheers Kop
 
KOP sums it up well - other than the issue of noise. The customer is always right, but if you do go for the loft option, make sure that it is well away from the bedroom ceilings.

From my experience, boiler noise in the attic seems to be amplified and reverberates like a drum on the ceilings
 
Cheers for that but customer wants it in the loft to keep cupboard space and kitchen wall space. Boilers now have a frost stat built in for the winter months and the condensate pipework will be existing the building into a condensate soakaway. There's plenty of ventilation in the loft so it can breath in the summer months. There's a walk way and light already in place.
 
Cheers for that but customer wants it in the loft to keep cupboard space and kitchen wall space. Boilers now have a frost stat built in for the winter months and the condensate pipework will be existing the building into a condensate soakaway. There's plenty of ventilation in the loft so it can breath in the summer months. There's a walk way and light already in place.
Foolish but there you go if you need the job then crack on I would walk though . Good luck kop
 
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Customers always right it’s there money after all
Yes but you will be the one who's got to get up there and risk your own safety you know my take on it never ever would I do it , I have seen some awful things go wrong I had a apprentice fall through a ceiling a break a leg , a child scalded when a heat exchanger split and near boiling water came through the ceiling onto her bed , a complete house flooded from pipework that froze and pushed apart the family were put in rented accommodation for 6 months , so no the customer is not always right guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one Mr Corbs . Have a nice weekend Kop
 
If the was a gas leak at least it would vent to the atmosphere.
 
If you had any sense you would install a audible gas alarm as well ! have you seen the damage a gas explosion can do I saw one in London many years ago now it looked like a earthquake had hit frightening . Kop
 
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I always use solder and copper and 25mm thick pipe insulation. With the boiler in the loft and a built in frost stat and with heat rising the with fernox alpha 11 in the system there's no way the pipes will burst. There is a old gravity cylinder no insulation on pipework.. boiler will be located at gable theend of house no where near bedrooms. The customer said other quotes she got they wouldn't quote for boiler going in loft.. reasons being easier install and less material costs for them and the quotes where high. Plus I never like the vertical flues then require a roofer the flue gas possibly escaping through the roof, plus if there's a flue going through a attic shouldn't you require a floor and a light to inspect the flue?? With boiler on gable end and flue out the wall.
 
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Now watching footie and G-T time bud have a good week end . Kop
 

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