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the newer speed fit doesnt need collets as the fittings twist lock
depending on where this pipework is it may need lagging
in truth no one clips correctly when shoving heating under floors be it copper or plastic personally i like to get a few nail ons on to plastic to stop it moving as the heat goes on other wise it will snake around
 
As people are saying, it'll no doubt function as needed but just looks like a typical rush job. Shame really. Wanna make sure those two little bits of uncovered copper are protected prior to closing the floor.
 
thats a right mess looks like lazy cack work,how the hell do they plan on getting the board back down in pic 2?
 
picture 2 shows no regard or knowledge of building regs for where to drill or notch a joist.
hand't noticed the one pipe before kept looking at pictures 3 + 4, and yes looks like the same run of pipe set up as a one pipe system or at least that bit.
I think you were perfectly justified to query the quality of the work, it is poor.:thumbs_down:

ps - welcome to the forum
 
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I generally ask the customer (or the builder who is paying me) if they want copper or plastic and explain the upsides and downsides of both (copper is more expensive and more labour intensive but will last for decades if installed correctly, plastic is quicker so even though very similar in price to copper (including the fittings) will work out cheaper, but the rodents love to eat it, the fittings can blow off and generally looks a dogs bollx. Copper everytime for me unless, told different


Do rodents really chew plastic???
 
I had a squirrel nesting in my loft once and it totally stripped the insulation off all the electric cables god knows how it never electrocuted itself or started a fire , never touched the pipes tho .
 
Looks no different to me than most of the plastic plumbing I see done.

You beat me to that one Best. Pretty par for the course where plastics are concerned, left like a dogs breakfast.

To the OP.
You are the one paying for it so regardless of what anyone else thinks, if you don't think it is acceptable get it sorted.
 
I was just looking ove 3 & 4 again and it does look suspicously like a 1pipe!!! but who put new 1pipe systems in these days???

need to have a proper look at thet if I were you!!
 
Got to say somthing here matey ,first thing is that speed fit used on combi boilers is a no no because the fitting draw air in which in turn reduces the pressure in the system. Really you should have used HEP or polly plumb(the cheaper HEP).
Secondly someone once told me that if you connect copper into a plastic fitting (HEP,Speedfit,polly plumb) the copper over time corrodes the rubber washer inside the fitting causing it to leak.
For me it copper everytime. Copper look class when you have finished if you know how to use it.
Then again time is money!
 
I was just looking ove 3 & 4 again and it does look suspiciously like a 1pipe!!! but who put new 1pipe systems in these days???

need to have a proper look at thet if I were you!!

It was and still is a one pipe system. I was advised to replace all the old rads. Most of the ground floor pipes have now been renewed. When I saw the corroded old copper pipes I asked for plastic where set in concrete, which the plumber misunderstood as pipes everywhere to be plastic. I did not know that you are to keep plastic fittings accessible. In fact I later asked for the downstairs pipes to be re-located to be behind the skirting since we had to dry line the lounge walls. The builder agreed but today concreted them in. I was, er, surprised to see how this looked:
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There is no insulation on the pipes under floorboards Surely this wastes heat? I have tired of challenging the builder - he now just replies "it's fine", or "you never clip pipes under floorboards" and "plastic pipes never go wrong".
 
Sorry but if you have gone to all the trouble of replacing most of the pipe work and rads in the property, why would the plumber on site not suggest / recomend upgrading to two pipe system?
 
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Sorry but if you have gone to all the trouble of replacing most of the pipe work and rads in the property, why would the plumber on site not suggest / recomend upgrading to two pipe system?

That one would have been a no brainer.
 
A one pipe system is completely unacceptable imo :thumbdown:

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Would a 1 pipe system work?? I don't recall speedfit having a swept Tee in there range, also the restrictions in new TRV's would slow the flow to the rads as well as the small bore of the Lockshield! Also it down't look much like there is a gradual rise or fall on any of the pipe to assist in circulation, (I realise with a pump this is negated to a certain extent!!)
As for bury fittings in screed!! Ask the plumber which build reg allows that!!
 
Would a 1 pipe system work?? I don't recall speedfit having a swept Tee in there range, also the restrictions in new TRV's would slow the flow to the rads as well as the small bore of the Lockshield! Also it down't look much like there is a gradual rise or fall on any of the pipe to assist in circulation, (I realise with a pump this is negated to a certain extent!!)
As for bury fittings in screed!! Ask the plumber which build reg allows that!!

I feel ill. I asked if the TRVs were designed for 1 pipe. He said yes, they were 'universal'. He has made all the rads either bigger or two panel, but this sounds a waste if we then have to restrict the flow in some of them to balance the system. Even the rad in the hall, where the system thermostat is, has a TRV. What's the point of that?
Why didn't the plumber suggest a two pipe system seeing as most of the plumbing was replaced? We could have had smaller rads or kept some of the originals to offset the extra labour/pipes.
I am getting a trusted plumber to look at the system. We didn't use him for the job since the builder wanted to use his regular guys.
 

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