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No, I've worked it out and the upstairs are also undersized.

As I said, the installer did no assessments beforehand so no such thing as a heat loss calculation..

He is now saying that upstairs are not undersized and should provide you with heat loss calculations to do this. Ironically the heat loss calcs you say you have done you mentioned using the inner temp as 10 degrees, the calc should be based on the ideal temp as opposed to actual temp. So if you have done it the way you have indicated the size you worked out could also be undersized and yet your calculations still tell you you need larger rads than provided.
 
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I am sure none of the regular plumbers will charge £2.6 to putt full ch system !

Maybe not regular but...

How many hotels did you get? Surely 2600 for a full system was considerably lower than most? Were you not concerned at that point?

Your ipad playing up again? 😉 It was very competitive though it wasn't the cheapest and it wasn't that far out from the average and he had a lot of good feedback from one of them tradesman website things so I wasn't overly concerned.
 
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Maybe not regular but...



Your ipad playing up again? 😉 It was very competitive though it wasn't the cheapest and it wasn't that far out from the average and he had a lot of good feedback from one of them tradesman website things so I wasn't overly concerned.

Haha no that was the red wine! Sorry! Far to cheap for a quality install in my opinion. That said there is no excuse for poor quality workmanship. Hope you get it sorted.
 
You should tell all the people you know never ever to use plumbers from them trusted web sites ......
 
Get someone else to sort the work out, post the job on here.
I think you will have to move on from the problem the installer has given you.
how can you not measure a room and be able to fit a radiator?

by the time you get a independent opinion, go through a solicitor where is it going to go and at what cost, both money and stress.
 
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He is now saying that upstairs are not undersized and should provide you with heat loss calculations to do this. Ironically the heat loss calcs you say you have done you mentioned using the inner temp as 10 degrees, the calc should be based on the ideal temp as opposed to actual temp. So if you have done it the way you have indicated the size you worked out could also be undersized and yet your calculations still tell you you need larger rads than provided.

My head hurts.

You should tell all the people you know never ever to use plumbers from them trusted web sites ......

So where do you go if you have no recommendations and have just moved into a new area??

Haha no that was the red wine! Sorry! Far to cheap for a quality install in my opinion. That said there is no excuse for poor quality workmanship. Hope you get it sorted.

Get someone else to sort the work out, post the job on here.
I think you will have to move on from the problem the installer has given you.
how can you not measure a room and be able to fit a radiator?

by the time you get a independent opinion, go through a solicitor where is it going to go and at what cost, both money and stress.

Yeah, it looks like the feedback from you guys is that it's not worth pursuing further. To be honest, that's where I was heading to as at least he has offered to do some of the work without labour charge. If he hadn't I would have definitely gone further with it.
 
Could have knock on neighbours and ask them , could have gone to the local pub , local shop , lockal plumbing shop could have gone on google and get idea who is your lockal plumber and get few quotes , and get to meet the plumbers in person !
You had it done cheap cheap , will say get some one in to upsize your rads and delete that builders number from your phone
 
For you guys that do it, how much would you roughly charge to change from a single to a double (same size) labour only?

Also, where is the best place to buy (non trade only) cheap rads?
 
Living room: 3.4m x 3.7m x 2.7m Rad installed: 1000mm x 600mm single BTU 3238
Bedroom 1: 3.5 x 3.4 x 2.6 Rad installed: 900mm x 450mm single BTU 2262
Bedroom 2: 3.77 x 2.5 x 2.65 Rad installed: 700mm x 450mm BTU 2007

Living room 7000 btu
bed 1 6000 btu
bed 2 5000 btu
without calculating walls/ windows/ insulation etc.
 
For you guys that do it, how much would you roughly charge to change from a single to a double (same size) labour only?

Also, where is the best place to buy (non trade only) cheap rads?

where are you based?
 
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Get some prices for the work, I would get labour & rads price.
the installer can probably get cheaper rads and offer a guarantee against what he does. I do not give guarantees on anything I have not supplied.
if you have it done again you want it done correctly.
post it up in the forum and somebody will help you out.
 
I will give you another tip don't try and save money on rads and buy em from screwfix or b&q because you won't save, gonna cost even more in the long run
 
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If you want to get the rads your self I am sure your buddy will fit them for you !
If you want a profesional do as Steve b say list your location and you will hear from a profesional plumber who will come an survey job for you !
 
I will give you another tip don't try and save money on rads and buy em from screwfix or b&q because you won't save, gonna cost even more in the long run

why do you say that? think this should be a seperate thread but surely made of same metal and come with 10 year guarantee (which merchants dont have). but nearly £30 cheaper per rad, so curious why you dont recommend them!
 
Living room: 3.4m x 3.7m x 2.7m Rad installed: 1000mm x 600mm single BTU 3238
Bedroom 1: 3.5 x 3.4 x 2.6 Rad installed: 900mm x 450mm single BTU 2262
Bedroom 2: 3.77 x 2.5 x 2.65 Rad installed: 700mm x 450mm BTU 2007

Living room 7000 btu
bed 1 6000 btu
bed 2 5000 btu
without calculating walls/ windows/ insulation etc.

Wow those are a lot higher than my calcs are suggesting

Mine is
Living room: 5000 btu
bed 1 3700 btu
bed 2 3000 btu

where are you based?

east midlands

I will give you another tip don't try and save money on rads and buy em from screwfix or b&q because you won't save, gonna cost even more in the long run

Are they really that bad. I was going to get them from Screwfix but they don't have the right size. What's wrong with them?

If you want to get the rads your self I am sure your buddy will fit them for you !
If you want a profesional do as Steve b say list your location and you will hear from a profesional plumber who will come an survey job for you !

The thing is that he has offered t do some of it labour free so I have to take it, don't I?
 

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