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wildfirejc
Just as a matter of interest, how much should a plumber charge if he has done the following list of jobs please?
1. Dismantled longbath, 2 sinks and 1 toilet
2. Reorganised pipes to run across 2mtr room for new shower head and sink
3. Fitted cloakroom sink on counter-top
4. Fitted stop valves for 2 douche taps
5. Dismantled radiator
6. Fitted new radiator
7. Serviced Combi-boiler
8. Dismantled kitchen tap
9. Fitted new kitchen tap
10. Built cladding for concealed cistern
11. Installed Abacus Direct Shower tray
12. Installed wall hung Thermostatic Shower control unit
All sanitary units and equipment supplied by customer.
Plumbing bits and pipes supplied by plumber
He also did the following but they are incorrectly installed - so I think I shouldn't be charged for the following:-
1. Installed concealed wall frame for cistern (nuts were in wrong place and wall hung pan is loose)
2. Installed wall hung pan to wall frame ( connected to item 1 - not fit for purpose, can't be used)
3. Installed shower arm to wall (shower arm flopping -probably not braced properly found rawl plug stuck on side to be used as brace)
4. Installed sink on vanity unit not centrally sited - so tap water runs behind sink
5. Left undone - cloakroom tap not installed, sink waste not installed, one douche tap not installed
1. Dismantled longbath, 2 sinks and 1 toilet
2. Reorganised pipes to run across 2mtr room for new shower head and sink
3. Fitted cloakroom sink on counter-top
4. Fitted stop valves for 2 douche taps
5. Dismantled radiator
6. Fitted new radiator
7. Serviced Combi-boiler
8. Dismantled kitchen tap
9. Fitted new kitchen tap
10. Built cladding for concealed cistern
11. Installed Abacus Direct Shower tray
12. Installed wall hung Thermostatic Shower control unit
All sanitary units and equipment supplied by customer.
Plumbing bits and pipes supplied by plumber
He also did the following but they are incorrectly installed - so I think I shouldn't be charged for the following:-
1. Installed concealed wall frame for cistern (nuts were in wrong place and wall hung pan is loose)
2. Installed wall hung pan to wall frame ( connected to item 1 - not fit for purpose, can't be used)
3. Installed shower arm to wall (shower arm flopping -probably not braced properly found rawl plug stuck on side to be used as brace)
4. Installed sink on vanity unit not centrally sited - so tap water runs behind sink
5. Left undone - cloakroom tap not installed, sink waste not installed, one douche tap not installed
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tamz
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tamz
🙂🙂🙂🙂 that will be expansive bathroom according to this string , if it was for boiler change or full ch install will travel but for this .....better off local plumbers job
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dontknowitall
I might be way out because, as Tamz suggests, how long is a piece of string but a guess is 10 days (£1,750) and say £500 for materials so £2,250.
This, though, is a real finger in the air type of figure but if you were wondering whether it should be nearer £500 all in I'm not sure you could find anyone to do it for that price and expect a reasonable finish and if someone charged you £8,000 I think you'd only be wondering about the price as the quality of work would, presumably, be perfect and so you wouldn't be hear telling us of your nightmare (which it is).
I hope you get sorted soon.
This, though, is a real finger in the air type of figure but if you were wondering whether it should be nearer £500 all in I'm not sure you could find anyone to do it for that price and expect a reasonable finish and if someone charged you £8,000 I think you'd only be wondering about the price as the quality of work would, presumably, be perfect and so you wouldn't be hear telling us of your nightmare (which it is).
I hope you get sorted soon.
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allstarsystems
£1800 sounds around the rite price i would say i just cant explain no more how these shocking tradesman wannabes get away with this you said hes got your house key too!
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wildfirejc
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Guest123
The way we all voted in the Scottish elections, you lot are going to need a passport to cross the border! LOL
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wildfirejc
The plumber sent his minion this morning. He took off the wall hung pan and we confirmed that the nuts on either side of the concealed cistern frame (which holds the rod that the wall pan hangs on) are loose - so loose in fact - one was about 5 inches away from the frame.
The plumber is blaming the minion for tightening and loosening the rod - and making the nuts move away from the frame. This is a SIAMP BCM350 frame.
He insisted that the minion should put his hand through the hole (for the soil stack) and screw the nuts back against the frame on either side to dead lock them.
The wall plate has been over-tightened (due to the loose nuts) and now we've noticed that the bolts on the wall plate have cracked the thermaliteMy question is: If they insist that they can do repairs without dismantling the cladding and tiles from the concealed box - are they talking utter rubbish?
When exactly should I put my foot down and say - enough is enough, just give me my money back and I'll get someone else to do a proper job?
Oh and behind the wall hung pan, the plumber has piled on a massive amount of silicone to "seal" the leak - which was the result of the loose nuts, making hte wall hung pan move, and so the soil stack membrane was twisted and should they even do that?
The plumber is blaming the minion for tightening and loosening the rod - and making the nuts move away from the frame. This is a SIAMP BCM350 frame.
He insisted that the minion should put his hand through the hole (for the soil stack) and screw the nuts back against the frame on either side to dead lock them.
The wall plate has been over-tightened (due to the loose nuts) and now we've noticed that the bolts on the wall plate have cracked the thermaliteMy question is: If they insist that they can do repairs without dismantling the cladding and tiles from the concealed box - are they talking utter rubbish?
When exactly should I put my foot down and say - enough is enough, just give me my money back and I'll get someone else to do a proper job?
Oh and behind the wall hung pan, the plumber has piled on a massive amount of silicone to "seal" the leak - which was the result of the loose nuts, making hte wall hung pan move, and so the soil stack membrane was twisted and should they even do that?
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wildfirejc
Here are the photos of the silicone sealant. You'd think he owns shares in a silicone sealant company from the amount he used!
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wildfirejc
Sorry to trouble you again guys - but the plumber sent his minion to rectify the faults and I just need to ask one question - when he took off all the silicone sealant from the soil stack (drain pipe) that is connected to the back of the wall hung pan, the soil stack pipe is now held onto the few inches of wall hung pan pipe by a rubber membrane - and the whole thing wobbles.
I've uploaded it onto youtube - to give you a better illustration.
YouTube - Soil Stack Wobble.MOV
Please help.
I've uploaded it onto youtube - to give you a better illustration.
YouTube - Soil Stack Wobble.MOV
Please help.
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PlumbBobBob
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wildfirejc
Which fitting? The soil stack? Could it be that since SIAMP is made in Monaco and the width of the soil stack is 100mm, the Euro Wall Hung pan has a drain pipe that is perhaps 110mm, the two of them need some kind of adaptor?
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tamz
They way you are holding it the connector will move. Push it back hard against the wc and there will be little movement, perhaps 5 - 10º deflection. It is the way they are made as they are made to fit a range of sizes.
As widfire said, the wc spigot may be undersized which will give more movement.
Have a read at this link and you will see what i mean (these are about the best brand of connector imo)
WC Connectors - Multikwik
You won't be long in finding out if it seals when it is flushed.
As widfire said, the wc spigot may be undersized which will give more movement.
Have a read at this link and you will see what i mean (these are about the best brand of connector imo)
WC Connectors - Multikwik
You won't be long in finding out if it seals when it is flushed.
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wildfirejc
Hello all,
Right at this moment, the whole thing is in the hands of the small claims but I do have a question:
Eversince the combi-boiler has been "tampered" with by the plumber and his side-kick, whereby I was billed for a Combi-boiler servicing and a new radiator installed (albeit upside down), the water pipes now give occasional tremors - shuddering - even though no one is using the taps or the central heating isn't on.
So what do you think is the problem now? We did bleed the radiators - hissed alot and the safety valve of the combi - boiler shot out and left a black spot on the ceiling...
Would appreciate any advice.
Right at this moment, the whole thing is in the hands of the small claims but I do have a question:
Eversince the combi-boiler has been "tampered" with by the plumber and his side-kick, whereby I was billed for a Combi-boiler servicing and a new radiator installed (albeit upside down), the water pipes now give occasional tremors - shuddering - even though no one is using the taps or the central heating isn't on.
So what do you think is the problem now? We did bleed the radiators - hissed alot and the safety valve of the combi - boiler shot out and left a black spot on the ceiling...
Would appreciate any advice.
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