Best combi boiler for reliability and warranty

[alltec]

I'm looking to get a new combi boiler installed, and would like to get one that's reliable and with a long warranty.
I've seen Ideal do 7 years, Baxi do 10 on their top of the range Combi, Worcester only seem to offer 5 years and Valiant offer 5 or 7 years if fitted by an approved installer.
What would people advise regarding a quality boiler, and do these warranties offer good cover (i.e. parts and labour, and in general is it normally the manufacturer that does repairs under warranty or just any registered gas safe engineer)?.
It would seem Baxi don't have as good a name as Bosch, Valiliant - but with a 10 year warranty, what do people think?

 

[Ermintrude]

The plastic in a Worcester will have leaked long before the Baxi or ideal warranties expire!

 

[chris watkins]

None are really worth the paper they are written on unless the boiler is installed correctly & the system is cleaned & treated to correct standards (with proof if poss). Even then there is enough wriggle room for most to get out of it if they must.
Get a descent engineer (who most likely will not be the cheapest) to carry out the work & suggest a boiler they know to be good.
You are only going to get the same old favorites again, of each in here.

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

as understood from previous threads posted by OP, this is gonna be fit under gov scheme.

 

[jtsplumbing]

as understood from previous threads posted by OP, this is gonna be fit under gov scheme.

If that's the case I don't think he will a choice of boiler anyway.

 

[gassafe]

as understood from previous threads posted by OP, this is gonna be fit under gov scheme.

In that case, anything from ideal or potterton... 😉

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

exactly.

 

[gassafe]

as understood from previous threads posted by OP, this is gonna be fit under gov scheme.

No boiler will stand a chance, they are all going to be fitted poorly so the guarantee is irrelevant 😛

 

[Roger Welton]

UKPF require I recommend Intergas now 🙂

followed by someone else recommending Ideal / Worcester / Vaillant / Viesmann / Baxi

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Go Ferroli Go :yesnod:

 

[Roger Welton]

Go Ferroli Go :yesnod:

7 Years warranty now on the Modena, it must be good...............

 

[Alpha man]

Ideal,

 

[sheff paul]

I'm looking to get a new combi boiler installed, and would like to get one that's reliable and with a long warranty.
I've seen Ideal do 7 years, Baxi do 10 on their top of the range Combi, Worcester only seem to offer 5 years and Valiant offer 5 or 7 years if fitted by an approved installer.
What would people advise regarding a quality boiler, and do these warranties offer good cover (i.e. parts and labour, and in general is it normally the manufacturer that does repairs under warranty or just any registered gas safe engineer)?.
It would seem Baxi don't have as good a name as Bosch, Valiliant - but with a 10 year warranty, what do people think?

please don't be a Lemming saying bosch,it is a marketing ploy,worcestors are cheap nasty plastic,just because they advertise on telly Lemmings like yourself buy them,Vailiant don't advertise on telly so why are they the UK's leading brand,cause you haven't guessed it yet have you!.Installers like them,they are well made,easy to fit,robust,easy to work on,they are made in Germany.Dont get to hung up on mega warrantie's as most manufactuers wiggle out of them

 

[Ermintrude]

Ideal,

We now know you've worked on Alpha boilers, because your re come ding an ideal over your name sake!

 

[TBServices]

How are Vaillant the UKs leading brand? Lol

 

[lame plumber]

for any interested party, just removed a 3 yr old ferrolli and 2.5 yr old logic in the last month, in went an intergas each time. Ferrolli had busted pcb, probably duff gas valve and had been installed by an unregistered plumber - logic just had no fan available for 2 weeks, so doesnt matter if the warranty is eons long if you cant get parts in January 🙂

 

[Killy Bing]

Doesnt matter how reliable it is, you're getting it for free, you have 3 grand saved to chuck at it in repairs.

wanting the world for free?

 

[sheff paul]

How are Vaillant the UKs leading brand? Lol

Because Worcestor are the 'Devils *****'

 

[sheff paul]

How are Vaillant the UKs leading brand? Lol

Wife phones doctor... my husband is 'ranting about Worcestors again please come and calm him down'...

 

[PlumbersMate]

What is uk leading manufacturer?

 

[Ray Stafford]

What is uk leading manufacturer?

If you mean biggest selling, the answer is Worcester, by quite a large margin.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

If you mean biggest selling, the answer is Worcester, by quite a large margin.

but if you don't want it to leak,blow up or melt or cost a arm and a leg like rip off vailant(yes they are taking the proverbial on spare parts prices) Baxi hea all the way

 

[TBServices]

but if you don't want it to leak,blow up or melt or cost a arm and a leg like rip off vailant(yes they are taking the proverbial on spare parts prices) Baxi hea all the way

Lie. If it's a baxi it will DEFINITELY leak. If only from the HW thermistor

 

[dancinplumba]

Lie. If it's a baxi it will DEFINITELY leak. If only from the HW thermistor

Sad, but true

 

[Ermintrude]

When fitting remove fiber washer and fit a alu Vokera one.

 

[gassafe]

All boilers leak, its a fact of life... There are just too many joints inside of them! All cars breakdown too, even the mercs & bmw's...

Any boiler will suffice, just have it installed correctly on to a clean system with good quality inhibitor... The rest is up to the gods...

 

[RGII79]

Baxi neta tec combi ga

its a beast

 

[lame plumber]

If you mean biggest selling, the answer is Worcester, by quite a large margin.

trabants were a high volume car once, didnt make them any good 🙂

 

[Ray Stafford]

trabants were a high volume car once, didnt make them any good 🙂

True. But that was in a closed market, without free competition.

Worcester have been market leader in the UK for well over a decade, against all comers. You don't have to like them. You don't have to buy them. But if you pretend that they are not the biggest swinging dick on the block, then you are just fooling yourself.

 

[lame plumber]

they are going to do a tescos soon, the markets saturated and theyll only realise to late, same as ford and leyland did in the uk, and toyota and others moved in and proved quality counts for everything.

 

[gasmanrob]

Best value for money is the duotec HE A. When you take into account

purchase price, spare parts, reliability, ease of use and customer controls, in the event it does break.... It's easy to work on with plenty of room to access everything so labor time is reduced and so is any repair bill. Plus you do get a long warranty, and it has the vaillant heat exchanger.

pound for pound the best value combination boiler.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking too it..... Have fitted 3 in the last 2 weeks and number 4 goes in tomorrow number 5 starts Monday

 

[RGII79]

Worcester have been market leader in the UK for well over a decade, against all comers. You don't have to like them. You don't have to buy them. But if you pretend that they are not the biggest swinging dick on the block, then you are just fooling yourself.

more plastic and orings than anything else

 

[gasmanrob]

I have to say I still have a few sine's on the service books still with the original heat exchanger and gas valves now there's a boiler!

 

[Ray Stafford]

I have to say I still have a few sine's on the service books still with the original heat exchanger and gas valves now there's a boiler!

Yep, one of the all time classics. Over engineered, but in a good way.

 

[IDCHAPPY]

I got a sime format 100c in my flat, I like the old girl 🙂

 

[Alpha man]

We now know you've worked on Alpha boilers, because your re come ding an ideal over your name sake!

Dare I say it, I prefer Ideal over the latest Alpha.

 

[hammers4spanner]

If you mean biggest selling, the answer is Worcester, by quite a large margin.

funny that plumb center tell me its ideal logic

 

[Ray Stafford]

funny that plumb center tell me its ideal logic

Not by a long chalk.

Its possible that the Ideal Logic boiler (and all its derivatives) are the biggest selling single platform, but overall, Worcester have significantly more market share than Ideal - even after factoring in Ideal's OEM business. Vaillant would be next then Ideal and BDR jostling for 3rd place.

 

[alltec]

Thanks for all the advice - seems like the warranty is likely to be wiggled out of, and most of all avoid the Worcester.

 

[alltec]

Doesnt matter how reliable it is, you're getting it for free, you have 3 grand saved to chuck at it in repairs.

wanting the world for free?

Well surely if you were in my shoes you'd want the most reliable boiler available to save on future repairs, irrespective if you've paid for the initial price or not, especially when I have a very reliable 30 year old floor standing boiler. I'm obviously not working now due to economic climate, but while I was working I would have paid for 10 boiler installations each year in tax - so I count this as just taking back some of the money the government has taken from me (which is how the system is supposed to work, you contribute and get something back on hard times).

 

[ggman]

please don't be a Lemming saying bosch,it is a marketing ploy,worcestors are cheap nasty plastic,just because they advertise on telly Lemmings like yourself buy them,Vailiant don't advertise on telly so why are they the UK's leading brand,cause you haven't guessed it yet have you!.Installers like them,they are well made,easy to fit,robust,easy to work on,they are made in Germany.Dont get to hung up on mega warrantie's as most manufactuers wiggle out of them

.
Plastic? how you dare calling WB plastic? Ray Stafford will be very angry, you have to say It's: EXPENSIVE GERMAN ENGINEERED COMPOSITE POLYMER MATERIAL, meaning: reinforced plastic.

 

[sheff paul]

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Plastic? how you dare calling WB plastic? Ray Stafford will be very angry, you have to say It's: EXPENSIVE GERMAN ENGINEERED COMPOSITE POLYMER MATERIAL, meaning: reinforced plastic.

been doing some contract work for a gas maintenance company,why are Worcestor flue clips supplied with bolts that are too short,is this a conspiracy to send me MAD....

 

[Nostrum]

I know its stupid.