Cheapest Combinaton boiler

[Bodd]

What is theCheapest Combinaton boiler on the market?

I try to tell customers that a a good boiler well fitted that incorperates a magnetic filter system and a good inhibitor installed will last far longer than a cheap boiler that is chucked in.

Some listen some don't.

So I'm thinking of when pricing giving a an itemised estimate.
Good boiler
Rubbish boiler
Power flush or no power flush
Manetic filter or not
Scale reducer or leave it out
Inhibitor.

At lest then they can see why I'm a million £ more than the next fella

 

[Blackcatgas]

Because of the Band B boilers days being numberd,the days of £500 boilers will soon be over (for now?), the difference in price between a rubbish Band A boiler and a Good Band A boiler isnt that great any way anymore.

 

[Puddle]

Apparently the cheapest Combi boilers at the moment are in the Leeds area

Appeal: Stolen Boilers and Showers, Leeds

😱😱

 

[Bartdude]

Apparently the cheapest Combi boilers at the moment are in the Leeds area

Appeal: Stolen Boilers and Showers, Leeds

😱😱

They could have a job getting rid of the Ideal🙂

 

[SafeGasInstall]

What is theCheapest Combinaton boiler on the market?

I try to tell customers that a a good boiler well fitted that incorperates a magnetic filter system and a good inhibitor installed will last far longer than a cheap boiler that is chucked in.

Some listen some don't.

So I'm thinking of when pricing giving a an itemised estimate.
Good boiler
Rubbish boiler
Power flush or no power flush
Manetic filter or not
Scale reducer or leave it out
Inhibitor.

At lest then they can see why I'm a million £ more than the next fella

i get it to Bodd,
give them price for proper staff and then not get the job .....customers all then want is to get it done on cheap

 

[moony]

price an ideal logic

and

a worcestor or vaillant

 

[Heating-eng]

This is the cheapest i have seen at £439
Sabre 25HE [Sabre 25HE] - £439.00 : boiler-sales.co.uk, Boilers at Low Prices
http://www.cheapcentralheating.co.uk/boilers-boiler-in-leeds.html

 

[obseen16]

i tell all my tight customers that their mentality is wrong, why would you want to put cheap rubbish in your home and expect it to last 15 years? buy cheap you get cheap i say.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i tell all my tight customers that their mentality is wrong, why would you want to put cheap rubbish in your home and expect it to last 15 years? buy cheap you get cheap i say.

same here ,and then they say quote for good one ....then next plumber after me quotes on a cheap one and gets the job

 

[Heating-eng]

i tell all my tight customers that their mentality is wrong, why would you want to put cheap rubbish in your home and expect it to last 15 years? buy cheap you get cheap i say.

Some people just want the cheapest. we have a lot of landlords around our area and they will only have the cheapest.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

last one i had ,went to fit gas hob !old one was 15 years old start coming apart ....installed new one then they ask for system upgrade ! they had floor standing boiler about 15-20years old and they ask for new system boiler with mega-flow !new mains new ,boiler new location vertical flue and new rads ! total cost come up to 5k .
Then they say ohh we don't have that much to spend ,then give them a cheaper option like 3.5k ! ohhh this is to much ...
Then i give them option to have just combi just under 3k ...
Ohh we have to really look in to our budget ......
Then can you not power flush ....
can you not leave the old rads.....
can you not fit a filter ....
can you not fit a limemaster...
why do you have to change rad valves ......

On the end i just told the customer please make your decision on what i have already itemised on my quote and get back to me !
i think is been 20 days now no sign of them .....thanks god
I think if i did get job would have been hell working in there house ...big house but customer not spending on maintains
so really time waisted . for every quote it does take me about 2-3h to do it

 

[GQuigley67]

i always tell people you get what you pay for, but i also quote for 2 diferent boilers, cheap one and dearer one, with magnetic filter as optional also.

my question is have quotes always been free ? or is this just a new thing ?

 

[Bartdude]

my question is have quotes always been free ? or is this just a new thing ?

I wouldn't be able to get away with charging for a quote,I think that's just part of being self-employed,one of the many unpaid jobs we have to do.

I don't give much information on a quote though,I've been caught with that before. A basic description of the work and a price.All the rad sizes etc,stay in my book until I've got the job.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i always tell people you get what you pay for, but i also quote for 2 diferent boilers, cheap one and dearer one, with magnetic filter as optional also.

my question is have quotes always been free ? or is this just a new thing ?

customers are taking advantage from us ,when we offer them free quotes !

and one day when we all start charging for it then we will be getting probable more then 70% of what we quote imho

 

[GQuigley67]

we should only be giving rough estimates on the job, then if they want it, pricing it up correctly imho because it is time consuming

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i know ....many times I give rough idea and then they are like please give us a quote then never hear from them

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i know ....many times I give rough idea and then they are like please give us a quote then never hear from them..

but if i charge them £100-£150 for the quote they will be more aware that this is time consuming for us

and it is cost affective to us

 

[GQuigley67]

you woulnt expect a quantity surveyor to do this type of stuff for free so why do we ? I know QS is much more complicated and time consuming but it still is pretty much the same thing pricing for a job

 

[yorkieplumber]

Hi can get Arated boilers at less than £500 now, look at the Ideal Logic, its less tha £500

Because of the Band B boilers days being numberd,the days of £500 boilers will soon be over (for now?), the difference in price between a rubbish Band A boiler and a Good Band A boiler isnt that great any way anymore.

 

[Bodd]

This is what I will do in future. Price for the instalation including sundrys and basic materials.
Then Itemise
Rubbish boiler £300
Good Boiler £1000
Magnet £ 85
Powerflush £ 250

I'll explain why you need a PF and a magnet and that not having them could invalidate the warranty. Problem is I like to put 20% on materials if I start itemising it will be hard to do so.

 

[GQuigley67]

just add the 20% to your itemised stuff simples 🙂

 

[Bodd]

just add the 20% to your itemised stuff simples 🙂

Problem with that is they go on internet and come back that they can get it cheaper.

 

[Bartdude]

If they're hunting for prices like that then it's not worth the hassle anyway.Tell 'em to jog.

 

[Bodd]

If they're hunting for prices like that then it's not worth the hassle anyway.Tell 'em to jog.

Thats my problem, To much hussle and I don't want to know. But that don't put food on the table

 

[SafeGasInstall]

and pay the bills for advertising and all the credit card bills to

 

[GQuigley67]

the itemised bill will be labour and material cost combined you know e.g "magnetic filter installed for extra £180" I dont like telling customer materials and labour seperate they get a price for the job im doing n thats that

 

[julesverne]

it's a nightmare at the moment customers will not seem to listen when it comes to good boiler versus cheap boiler they care only about 1 thing price, even though they probably know it will come back to bite them later on.
Went to the ldeal logic training course in hull yesterday. was surprised how good it was. got to strip down etc very easy to work on 5 year warranty that has to be a good selling point. also got a tour of the factory which was interesting too. i would recomend the course to anybody well worth a day off if you can afford it in these tough times.

 

[ratrace]

I have just been on the intergas course today. The boilers really do look as good as people are saying. Looking forward to fitting my first.

 

[julesverne]

does anybody know of any band a boilers in the £500 -£600.00 bracket inc flue and clock. the good bad and the ugly suggrestions all welcome. newly gas registered so would like a broad spec of boilers for when i am quoting.

 

[plumbster3456]

Some people just want the cheapest. we have a lot of landlords around our area and they will only have the cheapest.

agree all they think about is the price if it saves them £100 to fit rubbish they will fit rubbish. you want a stat? does it cost extra plumber? yes ... just leave it then .... this is the type of people most landlords are

 

[SafeGasInstall]

had one when ask how much is boiler.......then I said is the cost of flue and timer on top of that ........

landlord said do I need those .......... can you not use old flue at least

 

[yorkieplumber]

does anybody know of any band a boilers in the £500 -£600.00 bracket inc flue and clock. the good bad and the ugly suggrestions all welcome. newly gas registered so would like a broad spec of boilers for when i am quoting.

Hi yes the Ideal Logic is okay its easy to install and comes with a optional 5 year warrenty, price including standard flue is just short of £500 plus vat, oh and it has filling loop built in as well, hope this helps.

 

[kirkgas]

is the ideal logic a combi?

i have an ideal isar in my house (i know but i got it for nothing from the ideal rep about 6-7 yrs ago cause we fitted a couple of hundred for a local housing association, TBH we didnt really get too much both from them) i have changed my user control and it has gone again, so im gonna buy a new user control tmrow to get the boiler up and running but i need to think about changing the boiler, so peeps what am i to fit in my own house?
i dont really hear too many good things about too many boilers, so what combis are you fitting?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

if its a combi baxi duotec or potterton performa he if you want tougher you can still buy a 105 se if you want a heat only direct replacement for your isar DO NOT GET A BAXI SOLO HE they are a pig in the pork heat only theres limited choice at the moment,you could also fit a duotec or performa system boiler quick warm up times but keep your cylinder

 

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