Flue terminal positions close to windows - changed?

[lame plumber]

I'm sorry I didn't realise that Lame plumbers advice over ruled the Manufacturers instructions. I shall go round and reroute all of the flues that I have fitted with Plume kits following the manufacturers instructions. Do you think I can claim the expense back from the manufacturer as it was their instructions that caused me to disregard lame plumbers advice?

bit a a lame comment and its only an opinion I have, in order to cover my as in the future, but for all of you out there who want a definative answer heres one fm wb Greenstar 24i junior Plume management terminal positioning - Worcester, Bosch Group UK installer site trying to be helpful as ever rather than sarcastic

 

[AlexGas]

Put the kit in, it won't brake the bank and you will sleep much better!

 

[Reg Man]

I was led to believe plume management kits were not an excuse for incorrect terminal positions, but to reduce nuisance from plumming?

 

[vern]

I was led to believe plume management kits were not an excuse for incorrect terminal positions, but to reduce nuisance from plumming?

WB Mi's allow 150 mm with plume kit, had gasafe inspection on this very issue, I pointed to Mi's passed him to WB tech line, who backed me to the hilt......he backed down!

What if?....what if? A customer slackens a gas test point, removes a flue sampling point and accuses you after service / installation etc, to get his bill written off or reduced? Seen it all...... follow MI's do everything else right inc PAPERWORK and any sane judge will back you end of! By the way speaking from experience in previous management roles, not Internet hearsay!

 

[dancinplumba]

will have to start taking pics with date for everything we do

 

[vern]

will have to start taking pics with date for everything we do

Steve I would'nt bother, our jobs hard enough as it is! Just do what you do without complacency and you will be fine pal!

 

[lame plumber]

I've yet to meet a sane judge, some of the rulings they come out with beggar belief, you cant trust the uk law to back you up, take a look at the poor sgt jailed for having a pistol in his belongings, he didnt pack it in a box to be sent to him in the uk, it was never unpacked and he cops 18 months before appeal, and thats from one of our sane judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lame plumber]

WB Mi's allow 150 mm with plume kit, had gasafe inspection on this very issue, I pointed to Mi's passed him to WB tech line, who backed me to the hilt......he backed down!

What if?....what if? A customer slackens a gas test point, removes a flue sampling point and accuses you after service / installation etc, to get his bill written off or reduced? Seen it all...... follow MI's do everything else right inc PAPERWORK and any sane judge will back you end of! By the way speaking from experience in previous management roles, not Internet hearsay!

just saw all your what ifs, isnt that what risk assessment is, taking all the what ifs and devising a plan to eliminate risk, just what managers do all the time, especially in todays litigatious environment

 

[Reg Man]

WB Mi's allow 150 mm with plume kit, had gasafe inspection on this very issue, I pointed to Mi's passed him to WB tech line, who backed me to the hilt......he backed down!

What if?....what if? A customer slackens a gas test point, removes a flue sampling point and accuses you after service / installation etc, to get his bill written off or reduced? Seen it all...... follow MI's do everything else right inc PAPERWORK and any sane judge will back you end of! By the way speaking from experience in previous management roles, not Internet hearsay!

Of course the MI should be consulted and followed, they come above every thing. but the state about plume mangement kits is sound.

 

[leethegasman]

I install WB plume kits when flue is within 300mm of window and if you think of it a plume kit is to help get rid of nuisance pluming and i would say 300mm from a window in most cases would be a nuisance so can not see a problem if you are a installer who is not going take advantage of the MI then the only other way is to move boiler position or re route flue or brick up window which would poss cost more than a plume kit new to the gas safe forum hello to you all.

 

[Marco]

Thanks for all the replies guys. The window is an frosted glass window to under stairs cupborad (big enough compartment for boiler before we get into that one!). But nusance plumage for once less of an issue. I'd seen the WB MI's as its a 30Si going to be installed, so I'm definatly aware you can use the pluime management kits to get round outlet issues for their boilers - not sure on other MI's as mainly fit WB. I think will base price on using Plume kit to be on safe side. Also BG have stated flue near window is an issue, so might look bad if I don't. Not that I try to follow everything that BG would do!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AlexGas]

The plume management kit had to be installed at this address. It works a treat!

 

[GrahamM]

It is all down to the specific manufacturer regarding plume kits.
Worcester allow you the flexibility of fitting a flue 150mm from a window/door opening as long as the plume kit outlet is at least 300mm from the opening.
Plume kits are not just to lessen the nuisance factor.
You are still not permitted to have a flue terminating in an enclosed space with the outlet terminating above.

 

[lame plumber]

there will now be a discussion on the above sub topic for a couple of days:stuart: