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being more charitable I was going to ask a local charity in need of a new combi if they wantd one, seeing as their chaffonteaux monster was dying, ideal couldnt have been any worse than what they had. 🙂 Still Ideal have lost the opportunity of converting a few of us now 🙂
 
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Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaay can you have chat with Worcester about doing something similar with their new oil boilers, Pleeeeeeease 🙂
 
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Adam pls explain what does " LOSER"mean ? Did you mean lobster ?

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OK. One more loser.

Sorry ANZ. Please send me your jacket size because you are now the mayor of loser town.
 
STOP PRESS. HOLD THE FRONT PAGE

One of the winning six has just contacted me to withdraw - they have too much work on!

Which means I have to go back to Ideal tomorrow, and ask them to pick one more name. Someone who thought they were living in Loser-central will get an upgrade to Winner-town.

And a big round of applause for atouchofgas for being straight with us at this stage. Thanks for that - much appreciated.
 
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OK, I now have to switch approach, and start naming the winners.

The first winner is..... drum roll.....
 
STOP PRESS. HOLD THE FRONT PAGE

One of the winning six has just contacted me to withdraw - they have too much work on!

Which means I have to go back to Ideal tomorrow, and ask them to pick one more name. Someone who thought they were living in Loser-central will get an upgrade to Winner-town.

And a big round of applause for atouchofgas for being straight with us at this stage. Thanks for that - much appreciated.

Wtf! How can you be to busy to get a free boiler?
Id resigned myself to being a loser, now I have to go through all that pain again. My nerves can't cope.
 
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My boilers just broke at home, be nice to me Ideal and give it to Leo, how could I live with myself and an Ideal on the wall? Probably quite easily if truth were told, bugger being charitable 🙂
 
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Wtf! How can you be to busy to get a free boiler?
Id resigned myself to being a loser, now I have to go through all that pain again. My nerves can't cope.

This thread has had me laughing all night but this post pushed me over the edge! Pmsl!!
 
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I can see another winner lurking on the thread. Not saying much, but he is apparently India's answer to George Clooney.

Winner number 4 is MASOOD
 
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Pretty sure it wont be me winning atouchofgas's boiler. Think I've got enough off Ideal lately. but he must be mad though its a free boiler you dont give offers like that every day
 
totally agree, very entertaining especially mike's croppie baiting pmsl

Yes, I wish that I could offer Mike something more than a jacket. Sorry Mike, unless you get lucky tomorrow when I go back to Ideal for another name, all you have to show for stalking me and taunting Croppie is a lousy goodie bag. I take it that's an XL?

You should have put Bertie up!
 
I only wanted it so I could succeed at an Ideal breakdown for once. I'm bound to get it eventually, with every single part I need to hand!
 
So, there were six winners. Atouchofgas has thrown his back into the pot, so another name needs to come from Ideal tomorrow.

But I have only named four winners.

That must mean there is still one more winner to announce tonight! Doesn't it?
 
I can see another winner lurking on the thread. Not saying much, but he is apparently India's answer to George Clooney.

Winner number 4 is MASOOD

Oh! Blimey! Well, this is certainly the biggest prize I've ever won. THANK YOU RAY, and Ideal of course!!! Blinkin' flip!
 
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such a great thread that when I had a look earlier the first thing i saw was my name DOH 🙁
 
Yes, I wish that I could offer Mike something more than a jacket. Sorry Mike, unless you get lucky tomorrow when I go back to Ideal for another name, all you have to show for stalking me and taunting Croppie is a lousy goodie bag. I take it that's an XL?

You should have put Bertie up!

Normally XXL, I keep telling people Bertie is the slim one in the pictures.
 
Blinkin flip! Pmsl. This thread just gets better!

I was (am) a bit overcome!

I know exactly where this one is going, too.

Regular customers of mine, truly lovely people, have just had a baby, so they're down to one income. Their old Performa is breaking down with alarming regularity and just last week we had the "don't throw good money after bad" conversation. They don't have much money but they have a VERY photogenic house and a very cute baby, they are articulate and genuinely nice people. A marketing person's dream...

Going to call them tomorrow!
 
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I was (am) a bit overcome!

I know exactly where this one is going, too.

Regular customers of mine, truly lovely people, have just had a baby, so they're down to one income. Their old Performa is breaking down with alarming regularity and just last week we had the "don't throw good money after bad" conversation. They don't have much money but they have a VERY photogenic house and a very cute baby, they are articulate and genuinely nice people. A marketing person's dream...

Going to call them tomorrow!

A true gentleman mate
 
I was (am) a bit overcome!

I know exactly where this one is going, too.

Regular customers of mine, truly lovely people, have just had a baby, so they're down to one income. Their old Performa is breaking down with alarming regularity and just last week we had the "don't throw good money after bad" conversation. They don't have much money but they have a VERY photogenic house and a very cute baby, they are articulate and genuinely nice people. A marketing person's dream...

Going to call them tomorrow!

Thats sickeningly nice mate! Fair play to you. They'll be a customer for life..... Obviously just not for the next 7 years....
 
I was (am) a bit overcome!

I know exactly where this one is going, too.

Regular customers of mine, truly lovely people, have just had a baby, so they're down to one income. Their old Performa is breaking down with alarming regularity and just last week we had the "don't throw good money after bad" conversation. They don't have much money but they have a VERY photogenic house and a very cute baby, they are articulate and genuinely nice people. A marketing person's dream...

Going to call them tomorrow!

And knock £50 of your normal rate I hope! Didn't you start that thread on reaping what you sowe?
 
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this is the best thing i have ever one won, This is actually crazy, wonder if ideal and ray and the 6 winners will get a group photo. lol

Ray your on my Christmas list hahaha
 
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Thats sickeningly nice mate! Fair play to you. They'll be a customer for life..... Obviously just not for the next 7 years....

Its an Ideal..............that means two years of trouble free and five years of trying to get through to ideal to get someone out........at premium rate.
 
So, we are down to...

Bod
Plumber0808
PJF PLumbing

1 is a winner
2 are regretfully not winners
 
Right, just to remind everyone what they signed up to, before I name the final winner.

OP said:
Each stage of the install will need before and after shots, and Ideal may wish to video some parts of it for youtube, so your customer needs to consent to this. Ideal may also want to be present for commissioning or at other points in the installation, and reserve the right to withdraw if they think anyone is abusing their product.

I will be asking the site admin here to create a dedicated sticky thread for this product review only. You do not have to give the product a good review, but please be constructive - Ideal accept that they are taking a risk here, but they have faith in their product. What I would really like to see is the "story" of each install unfolding over the days and weeks, culminating in the 6 final reviews.

The reviews will be in the public section of the forum, and the participating installers can use the material for promoting their own businesses.

So far, this has been all in the arms, and been a bit of a laugh.

When the actual review threads come out, can I ask everyone to keep sensible, and avoid banter and "in jokes" and keep on the subject of the Vogue boilers?

Those threads will be public, and will be closely monitored by Ideal. I will also be pointing other manufacturers at them.

If we can get a professional, sensible thread going on, I don't see why we shouldnt become the "go-to" site for manufacturers with new products to launch, which means more freebies for you guys, and more coverage for us and the manufacturers.

That doesn't mean that we all have to say how wonderful it is - the product has to stand or fall on it's own merits. If its carp, then lets say so, but constructively!
 
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Sorry Plumber0808 and PJF Plumbing - can you please let me know your jacket sizes?

The last of tonights free boilers goes to BOD
 
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FIX.....FIX....FIX..........on a serious note i'd like to say thanks to Ray for the obvious and to everyone else for the entertainment.
 
Still one more winner to come tomorrow, after I tell that nice lady at Ideal that a Scotsman is too busy to take her thousand quids worth of free boiler!
 
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and later the losers can criticise their work quality 🙂🙂🙂 wont that be fun.
Is Ray giving a prize for the best install? and can we play spot those popping a boiler in at home?
 
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Clearly a fix. Bod, if you want a decent install doing for the pictures ill do it for you 😉

Congrats to the winners. Funny, I've to price a 40kw vogue tomorrow lol
 
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oh and a round of applause for the winners.......

and for Shaun Edwards at Ideal.

I first suggested this to my rep. He kicked it upstairs to his boss. Then I didnt hear anything for ages.

Then I got a call from Ideal marketing department - could I meet them to discuss?

Then their Sales Director got involved.

Finally, the Sales Director bought the Managing Director (that's Shaun) down to Fareham and after about 5 minutes, he just grinned and said "lets do it".

So a big up for him for having the balls!
 
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and for Shaun Edwards at Ideal.

I first suggested this to my rep. He kicked it upstairs to his boss. Then I didnt hear anything for ages.

Then I got a call from Ideal marketing department - could I meet them to discuss?

Then their Sales Director got involved.

Finally, the Sales Director bought the Managing Director (that's Shaun) down to Fareham and after about 5 minutes, he just grinned and said "lets do it".

So a big up for him for having the balls!

Well hopefully if all goes good it could be a showpiece for this forum and we all love freebies
Congrats to all who won and please try and do good reviews (I don't mean good if boilers are crap)
As then it could happen again
 
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and for Shaun Edwards at Ideal.

I first suggested this to my rep. He kicked it upstairs to his boss. Then I didnt hear anything for ages.

Then I got a call from Ideal marketing department - could I meet them to discuss?

Then their Sales Director got involved.

Finally, the Sales Director bought the Managing Director (that's Shaun) down to Fareham and after about 5 minutes, he just grinned and said "lets do it".

So a big up for him for having the balls!

so when it all goes well for them Ray, get Shaun down to take all the entrants out for the night 🙂
 
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I can just see it now. Eleven slightly miffed blokes wearing ideal jackets, slating the boilers and there installation!
 
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I can tell you what swung it for Ideal. I did a google search for "Ideal vogue review" and the no 1 google response was a thread that SMT started ages ago. That convinced them that UKPF was where it all happened!
 
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Best thread of the year! Congrats to all the winners, even bod. Unfortunately all 20 of you are banned from the next freebie which is a hot tub and years supply of doughnuts!
Ray top stuff mate, great effort by you and everyone at Williams. And ideal of course leading the way in customer care!



p.s I'm XL just incase...
 
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