Gas safe

[P J F PLUMBING]

Hi guys I'm not having a good time of late. Got a woman complain then gas safe inspected found 9 NSC faults I had flux left on pipe pro not discharging to ground I use two 90 s back to the wall any ways nothing at all unsafe they came and did an inspection in me all ok. Got home today a letter from gas safe we will be doing an inspection on one of your jobs Just called the customer they said the boiler stopped working so we called worcester out they said it was sledged sorted it out and went. So they called another customer plumber out and he said to call gas safe out. Anyway the customer says they found 16 NSC faults they picked me up on prv not discharging to ground the gas pipe work goes from 22 to 15 mm to 22 the section of 15 goes though the wall less than a foot but I joined onto it they said the boiler is running at 18 mbr Anyways they have left the boiler on no warnings ect but I'm going to be getting the report next week the customer wants to get this other plumber to sort and bill me. My question am I that bad ???? Please help as I'm really down been kicked twice in two months im doubting myself and lost my confidence will gas safe be watching me ??? Really worried

 

[SimonJohns]

Ask to meet up with the inspector

Have him to have a chat with you.

You'll get all the answers you need then

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Do they meet with you then informal like I've had a new guy and never met him my old inspector I used to call for advice ect just really down

 

[mutley racers]

Blimey, that is a tough time. I always use an elbow and a 45 for blow off. Also, 18mb inlet is fine if you have 19 at the meter with other appliances connected. I was inspected a month ago with this and all was ok.

Just correct your faults and read your books a bit to build your confidence up

 

[SimonJohns]

You pay their wages

You've had two inspections. I think it's only fair that they meet with you

Pm gassafepr and they may answer you

I would think it would be very poor of gas safe not to meet you

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

18 mbr running I haven't had the report though yet but customer said the faults will be sorted by this other plumber I feel like I'm being picked up on jiggly things ???

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

I had to leave the old boiler in place as they refused to pay an asbestos company to remove it

 

[lame plumber]

looks tidy enough, just clip the cable next time, talk to inspector as stated, remember, all they do to illegals is get them to sign up to gas safe, not even rosecute them at first, so they cant be to harsh on you esp if you want to take advice and rectify your issues. re the custard they should let you have the opportunity to make good any issues foc, if they refuse, then imho why should you pay for someone else to put right work that gas safe will inspect and pass if ok!

 

[mutley racers]

What's asbestos in it? The burner insulation?

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

I was tought that the flamenco had asbestos in so I get a company to remove it but they didn't wat to pay so it was disconnected perminataly and left in place About the cable it was in to a extension lead for testing there spark was connecting it. The 22 to 15 back to 22 was 8 inches though the wall to out side it is 22 mm from the meter not that far the 15 mm though wall then 5 foot over to boiler this was 15 mm all the way but i changed it to 22 mm I reused the 8 inches though the wall but connected both sides lasy I no regret now but the boiler is running 18 mbr in service mode have I really done a bad job ??

 

[armyash]

The customer probably just getting revenge for having that old boiler left in place. Hope all works out ok.

 

[tamz]

I wouldn't worry about it. Wait until you get the report and see what it says. Never believe anything a customer says especially an unhappy one.
Btw tell her if she goes ahead and gets anything done before you have had the report and had a chance to rectify it she is on her own and you won't be paying anything.

The netaheat (flamenco) has an asbestos rope gasket on the flue hood.
You need to take the hood off to get the flue apart so you wil disturb it. You don't need to be licenced to do this but you have to dispose of it properly. Whether you would want to do it is another matter.

 

[mutley racers]

I always take out all old boilers. Couldn't you just wet what's asbestos

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

I always take out old boilers but use a company to remove any which contain aspestos depends on the price who pays The boiler was fitted a year ago next week

 

[mutley racers]

I know that the hse make a big deal out of asbestos, but really, how bad is a little exposure once in a while? Isn't it just the people who worked with it all the time the people who are suffering? Like in the mines, and old flue and drain pipes and so on. And, is most of the asbestos on boilers white asbestos? Because a lot of countries are still using this kind?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I wouldn't worry about it. Wait until you get the report and see what it says. Never believe anything a customer says especially an unhappy one.
Btw tell her if she goes ahead and gets anything done before you have had the report and had a chance to rectify it she is on her own and you won't be paying anything.

The netaheat (flamenco) has an asbestos rope gasket on the flue hood.
You need to take the hood off to get the flue apart so you wil disturb it. You don't need to be licenced to do this but you have to dispose of it properly. Whether you would want to do it is another matter.

GOOD ADVICE TAM if i was the op i would really listen to this

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I know that the hse make a big deal out of asbestos, but really, how bad is a little exposure once in a while? Isn't it just the people who worked with it all the time the people who are suffering? Like in the mines, and old flue and drain pipes and so on. And, is most of the asbestos on boilers white asbestos? Because a lot of countries are still using this kind?

no asbestos is safe,it aint play doh,treat it as a potential killer

 

[Kyle87]

I know that the hse make a big deal out of asbestos, but really, how bad is a little exposure once in a while? Isn't it just the people who worked with it all the time the people who are suffering? Like in the mines, and old flue and drain pipes and so on. And, is most of the asbestos on boilers white asbestos? Because a lot of countries are still using this kind?

It takes only one particle of asbestos that becomes lodged in your lungs to develop as a malignant tumour.......so I'm told!

 

[SimonJohns]

It takes only one particle of asbestos that becomes lodged in your lungs to develop as a malignant tumour.......so I'm told!

I've heard that if you get a diamond lodged on a female finger it can have a more dramatic impact on your life

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

I don't take any thing for granted if I'm in dought I call my company to sort remove

 

[Kyle87]

I've heard that if you get a diamond lodged on a female finger it can have a more dramatic impact on your life

I've already got that disease and I don't need asbestosis to go with it!!

 

[tamz]

I've heard that if you get a diamond lodged on a female finger it can have a more dramatic impact on your life

Get it wrong and you just wish you were dead :lol:

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Sorry guys back the top does it seem ok or have I done bad

 

[SimonJohns]

Sorry guys back the top does it seem ok or have I done bad

I wouldn't worry about anything

When they want money refuse to pay

And with gas safe. Wait for the day they try to strike you off

 

[mountainman]

A bit wussy'ish imo, we are all going to die of something.

 

[Kyle87]

A bit wussy'ish imo, we are all going to die of something.

I'd rather it be something I enjoy than a slow horrible death.

Each to their own. But I may be around longer than you!!

 

[mountainman]

Probably, but I expect you haven't been around as long as I have🙂

 

[SimonJohns]

Well this turned out to be a bit of light hearted fun

I bet you don't laugh at a fart in a funeral

😛

 

[tamz]

Prv is nothing to do with gas safe, flux mark on the pipe, so what, she's a lazy cow for leaving it there, 12" of half inch, you shoulda changed it but no big deal as long as you get the correct drop and without cutting a test point in before the boiler you get the benefit of the doubt at a 2.5mb drop to the valve.
Just wait until you get the report from gas safe and take it from there.
Grab a beer and chill :smile:

 

[tamz]

I'd rather it be something I enjoy than a slow horrible death.

Each to their own. But I may be around longer than you!!

Chances are it will be some slow horrible one that will get you in the end :39:

 

[Kyle87]

Well this turned out to be a bit of light hearted fun

I bet you don't laugh at a fart in a funeral

😛

I'm usually the one farting then looking a someone beside me and shaking my head in disappointment so ppl think it was them!!

 

[Kyle87]

Chances are it will be some slow horrible one that will get you in the end :39:

Well you're probably right. I think life with my Missus will be a slow and horrible death!!

 

[Kyle87]

Anyway sorry to op if I've hijacked the thread

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Prv is nothing to do with gas safe, flux mark on the pipe, so what, she's a lazy cow for leaving it there, 12" of half inch, you shoulda changed it but no big deal as long as you get the correct drop and without cutting a test point in before the boiler you get the benefit of the doubt at a 2.5mb drop to the valve.
Just wait until you get the report from gas safe and take it from there.
Grab a beer and chill :smile:

Cheers guys. Thing like this really drop your confidence and make you think about every job and every thing I try my hardest to do the best job good work you know jim beam

 

[tamz]

you know jim beam

I don't particularly like him. I'd rather have the company of Johnny Walker (green label) :smile:

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

mmmmm singl malt my fav

 

[tamz]

See! your chilling already :lol: Don't worry about it mate. Just take it in your stride :wink:

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

i just worry had an inspection 2 months ago and now this worried about my number ect and worried ohhh lets look into him more you no what I mean

 

[GQuigley67]

as long as I don't leave any AR's or ID's I'm happy:grin:

 

[tweakyboy]

I wouldn't worry, as long as you know you have done everything correctly there will be nothing to worry about. NCS can be trivial things but Gas safe are only really interested in the likes of flues/ventilation/gas installation pipework. A PRV turnt into the wall instead of the floor is hardly a big deal. Yes it's terminated safely, just may not be to someone else's standards. What do the M.I's say?

 

[tamz]

Sounds like the gas safe guy is ex bg. Full of shyte and too smart with the mouth infront of the customer. I'm afraid it will get worse in the future as all the old heads who know the score get sick of it or retire.
His report will go back to the office and get looked at and will come back with a few this and thats.
Chill
[video=youtube;w5IOou6qN1o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5IOou6qN1o[/video]

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Da da dada chillll

 

[AlexGas]

It’s out of your hands now. You could pull out all of your hair from your head… and it’ll change absolutely nothing! Well… you will look a bit different. As I say - It’s out of your hands. Make sure you have all the answers for Gas Safe later on.

 

[AlexGas]

meant - sure

 

[AlexGas]

meant - sure

Hi guys, can it be deleted, please. I’ve posted it in the wrong forum. Cheers, Alex

 

[hammers4spanner]

I have phoned gas safe before regarding a prv and they passed it over as build control issue

When it suits I guess

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Is it quite common to be picked up on jiggly things then you just get them sorted out and that's it ??

 

[vern]

PJF...........PRV is buliding control, look in WB M.Is it shows wall termination of PRV!!, Rest is load od bull, sort gas pipe it looks un professional, even though WP is OK

Chin up if they found nothing they would'nt have a job!

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

Had the report today picked me up on prv concrete around flue cracking flux on pipe few other little things all ncs He tested there cooker and ID it turned off and capped off. I didn't work on cooker and the job was 14 months ago spoke to customer they are getting another ( expert ) plumber with over 40 years experience to do the work then bill me i said we'll no the expert is doing it spoke to the inspector and he said all the faults he found are justified he will see me on the inspection in a few weeks that's the update

 

[tamz]

Prv is not his remit unless it is capped off. See worcester mi's as Vern said.
Concrete ¿ (cement?) around flue, not necessary with a worcester (read the mi's) if the collars are fitted.
Flux on pipe, no classification unless it was slapped on and causing corrosion.
Argue your case with him but make sure you have better answers than he does.
Why would he ID a cooker? She must be a right lazy cow to let it get that bad.
Even if you never worked on the cooker you have a duty to give it a visual inspection and record any defects if you are doing work on any other appliances but a lot can happen in the 14 month timespan
And btw
Tell her to gtf.

 

[stevetheplumber]

cooker being id isnt your problem after 14months what did they say regarding the reduced pipework?

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

The cooker is nothing at all to do with me The pipe work he said there is a 4 mine drop over the pipe work I said you lose some though a wb he said yea that still leaves you with a 2 mbr drop you only allowed 1 mbr ok I said working pressure is 18 mbr in service mode all readings perfect I don't get how the same guy can pick up stuff then another inspector tells me it's ok

 

[mutley racers]

Why was the cooker id?

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

X 2 hob taps stuck letting by clearances to units gas pipe work touching electrical switch gear