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[Riley]

Thats a viega fitting not a mapress

No one is debating its viega it’s not marked for gas

 

[Millsy 82]

And this is the reason you should use soldered. Cant argue if its suitable for gas then.

 

[Old Account]

No one is debating its viega it’s not marked for gas

It was marked but when you polish pipes and fittings you rub the yellow and green stamps off especially when using brasso.

 

[Harvest Fields]

No one is debating its viega it’s not marked for gas

I am! it doesn’t look like a viega gas tee. This is a viega gas tee. It has yellow dots and says viega on it.

 

[Old Account]

And this is the reason you should use soldered. Cant argue if its suitable for gas then.

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting. First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems. Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar ... let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

 

[Harvest Fields]

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting. First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems. Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar . let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

All irrelevant information again Ron. And why polish something that is already shiny?

 

[Old Account]

I am! it doesn’t look like a viega gas tee. This is a viega gas tee. It has yellow dots and says viega on it.

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I'm debating too and you are wrong. You never dealt with viega fittings but telling me my fittings look like mapress. Common harvest you know you are wrong and that's the bitter truth.
3 different types of fittings

Left to right

Express, mapress and viega
As you can see the green dots disappear over time

Furthermore look how poor Express stamps are hardly visible and once you start polishing it will disappear easily

 

[Old Account]

All irrelevant information again Ron. And why polish something that is already shiny?

You dont have to polish do whatever you want you can keep your pipes full of flux and solder it ain't bother me

 

[Old Account]

All irrelevant information again Ron. And why polish something that is already shiny?

It's all relevant when it comes to incidents ... but keep talking g about a stamp ... if something goes wrong no one will ask about a stamp but about the right material used!!!

 

[Harvest Fields]

I'm debating too and you are wrong. You never dealt with viega fittings but telling me my fittings look like mapress. Common harvest you know you are wrong and that's the bitter truth.
3 different types of fittings

Left to right

Express, mapress and viega
As you can see the green dots disappear over time

Furthermore look how poor Express stamps are hardly visible and once you start polishing it will disappear easily

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Everything you say about me is true mate. But the difference between me and you is that I would rather listen to people’s advice and learn from my mistakes. But not you, you deviate and try to confuse people with facts that actually have no relevance to the conversation, and yet again you keep posting a picture of a copper tee and not the brass one that you have used in the gas line as a test point which is the one we are all on about. Ignore it all you want mate. I have decided to email viega to get pictures of all of their brass tee’s and have also decided to email them a picture of the one that you have used. If I am wrong I will happily let you know and apologise.

 

[Old Account]

Everything you say about me is true mate. But the difference between me and you is that I would rather listen to people’s advice and learn from my mistakes. But not you, you deviate and try to confuse people with facts that actually have no relevance to the conversation, and yet again you keep posting a picture of a copper tee and not the brass one that you have used in the gas line as a test point which is the one we are all on about. Ignore it all you want mate. I have decided to email viega to get pictures of all of their brass tee’s and have also decided to email them a picture of the one that you have used. If I am wrong I will happily let you know and apologise.

You can do whatever you want. I dont need your apology I really could care less. And I will proof you wrong again. Hang on, as I run out of brass stuff I will get in the next couple of days the next delivery. I will proof you wrong in the next minutes as I will show you the right T which I used.

 

[Millsy 82]

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting. First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems. Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar . let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

You may be right but you wouldn't be here arguing about a yellow dot. Lol.

 

[Harvest Fields]

You can do whatever you want. I dont need your apology I really could care less. And I will proof you wrong again. Hang on, as I run out of brass stuff I will get in the next couple of days the next delivery. I will proof you wrong in the next minutes as I will show you the right T which I used.

I’m happy to be wrong. Would love to see the correct tee you used. Or I would be happy with a part number that you have ordered and I will have a look.

 

[Old Account]

You may be right but you wouldn't be here arguing about a yellow dot. Lol.

I would argue. If use brasso that will disappear

 

[Old Account]

I’m happy to be wrong. Would love to see the correct tee you used. Or I would be happy with a part number that you have ordered and I will have a look.

I dont order from viega direct ha e for some mates in Germany

 

[Harvest Fields]

I dont order from viega direct ha e for some mates in Germany

That old chestnut🙄🙄

 

[Old Account]

You are right it is not the viega fitting it was an old x press fitting I had left. However, it is safe and gas rated but due to the brasso it's gone. However, I have ordered from my mates new fittings and the latest viega book. I will also show you the raxofix fittings which are high end quality.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hold on so you couldn’t stretch to lagging but you spent time and money using braso and time cleaning them shiny 😀

Arse backwards me thinks

 

[ShaunCorbs]

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting.

First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems.

Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar . let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

lets address some of these statements

wrong the additives in the gas attack the non gas rated oring breaking it down and in turn leaking / passing past the oring

if the gas line is above 130 dc temp wise i think you have bigger issues as the incoming service could be plastic, which as you know doesnt like heat/ hot environments and this will cause a problem before the solder melts

copper pressed can only be used on and upto 5 bar stainless can only be used upto 10 bar

as for soldered and your stated 15-100/50 bar tests, as you already know you cant soft solder past 75 mbar you need to braze in turn answers your second point braze will go well past press in regards to temp ratings and tbh you will prob find your copper tops out around 30 bar anyway

 

[Old Account]

Hold on so you couldn’t stretch to lagging but you spent time and money using braso and time cleaning them shiny 😀

Arse backwards me thinks

What the hell do I need lagging for mate. The whole house hasn't been lagged and it is over 70 years old. Do t get me wrong but you are extremely o er the top as usual. I'd like to see your jobs seriously I bet I could identify loads of faults