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One of a bathroom with my mate. Doesn’t look too bad with this wall paint. Would have thought it would turn out not as great but in the end very classy bathroom that is.
The nightmare cutting tile boarder in the corners especially 30/45’ degrees :/ took a while
The floor did a special company as it was vinyl in herringbone style.
The nightmare cutting tile boarder in the corners especially 30/45’ degrees :/ took a while
The floor did a special company as it was vinyl in herringbone style.
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I powered it from underneath the worktop and went with the wire on the flow side along
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Yes I was of course referring to my stopcock. Metal just seems to be used more and more frugally by manufacturers these days. Before long all valves will be the size of kinder surprise toys but with even thinner shells.
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whats the boiler in the middle at the bottom? Is that an lód worcester or british gas rd532i
The one at the bottom left is very diety ;/
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The last picture is very shocking - apparently serviced once a year!! No wonder why they last 10years
Greenstar classic 34cdi combi Ron looks a bit different when stripped mate , agree with you the valliants I service get a heat x clean a flush through and a new G10 seal each year what do you use to clean yours . Kop
Grim bud but as you done I have rescued my fair share from certain failure . Kop
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Nice service too.
I change on each service the graphite seal G10, electrodes, clean main heat exchanger, flush it out, clean siphon, drain expansion vessel, re charge the vessel, fga, gas rating and my ****.
To be fair I use a lot of elbow grease as I can’t get hold of a special spray for boilers here in uk. Now, I use hard plastic, soft plastic brushes. I used to buy a toilet brush and cut to size which works very well. Viessmann has got a special tool to clean in between the riffles which is a great tool though.
Once all done I use the supplied lubricant before I close the burner. If the heat insulation foams require changed I always do if required.
On Worcester I am taking the exchanger out which is done in 10min and then flush and brush through.
Tomorrow I’ve got an old turbomax apparently serviced each year 🙂 will see what I am going to find
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I like servicing, installs and repairs. It is a lot to learn and everyday you learn new things.
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You could use something like Conel Care 270 that’s designed for oil boilers and gas boilers which have a silicium or stainless steal heat exchanger
Discovered this beauty today, the guy I'm working for the next couple of days had called up saying he could hear water running under the decking when using the kitchen sink. Was convinced it was just a 5minute job 'pushing some pipes back together'. I insisted on going round and lifting the boards up before I would give him a price as I'm used to these things being a can of worms. The cowboys that did the decking had bodged a pushfit waste pipe into solvent weld fitting, held in place with ptfe tape and not a clip in sight. Then at the other end which is shown in this pic, the jokers that rendered the side of the house had filled it in with render and then put the decking boards back up to hide it.
After a bit of excavation I eventually found some indication of a drain being under that mess:
I really don't know how people that work like this can sleep at night!
After a bit of excavation I eventually found some indication of a drain being under that mess:
I really don't know how people that work like this can sleep at night!
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Just had a call from a landlord of mine that has had a dissappearing tenant and wants a hob removing. Turned up to find this and the gas board had turned the gas off to the property. Not one of mine Ron but this is what I deal with on a regular basis. Not sure if you can see from the picture but the cooker hose is also not even located in the bayonet fitting.
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Shocking shoddy work mate. What did you do with the ho , did you turn it off? Or did you just AR it?
I had recently a free standing cooker and I had no stability brackets, no stability chain, cooker not levelled, bayonet not 750mm from floor, and too close to the worktops no space. I was unsure about the judgement and called gas safe and they said to all not NTC ;/ weird .. I learned different things
It is all out mate. New Hob going in next week with butterfly isolation in the cupboard and new rigid pipework to Hob.
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That’s the way forward harvest. I had a similar case recently where a customer had few engineers who apparently checked for a gas leak but couldn’t find it. I went out for a blocked sink and as soon as I walked in i said you have got a gas leak. So, i started With letby and tightness test and it dropped immediately. Turned out to be the hob and i turned it off.
Why did you need to phone GS? Only thing potentially above NTCS is if it was too close - and then only with signs of distress. Not all cookers need any space.
This will make you laughter look what I saw today called in to see my electrician mate on a job this is a new heating first fix pipework install shocking in my opinion and a disaster waiting to happen some people !!!
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I phoned because I wasn’t sure how to judge this therefore I called them up. The way it looked and was installed, i would have AR without second thought. I phoned the cooker company and made sure about the space though.
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Oha, that Must have been done by someone who is a diyer or doesn’t care at all. There is absolutely no pride behind the work.
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No Ron just made the client aware that it's not acceptable I am not involved in the actual project so have no say in it i am afraid . Kop
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Thanks for letting me know KOP. It’s surely better not to get involved,
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Oha harvest it’s actually on old version of rems.. it still has a wire. I’d actually prefer cordless but as long as it works I won’t buy a new one. You can get already crimping machines for a decent money. Definitely worth the penny. I don’t solder no more I used to a little when I used to be an apprentice and when I got here in uk but have changed back to crimping.
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Thanks scott, it’s nothing major but sometimes you cannot make gold out of a bad install. But I think the customer is happy that’s important.
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I got my first one from my old company. Once I left the country I got my second one from my mate which is kind of second hand. But as mentioned still with a wire. I would most like get a cordless one if I was you. I’m super happy with it. It really speeds the works up, it’s no hazard to the property, you can cut live water pipes / put a valve on and crimp. Had to do this many times.
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Hi guys just an update on my saturday's install.
Thank you first of all to all for giving always a great advise and help.
Would you recommend putting a plume on ?
Thank you first of all to all for giving always a great advise and help.
Would you recommend putting a plume on ?
Very neat.
Is it an 825?
Are the 22mm capped pipes for power flushing?
It doesn’t look like 300mm to the door so yes a plume kit is probably needed.
Is it an 825?
Are the 22mm capped pipes for power flushing?
It doesn’t look like 300mm to the door so yes a plume kit is probably needed.
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Hi Scott,
Yes it is a 825. The capped 22mm ends are for future if somebody doesn't have the adapter so he has got an option to flush from without the need to cut into the pipework. It's not really 300mm so I will return and get the plume connected. I had one with me but the bend was missing for the terminal.
I'm happy you like that one.
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Nice work, but yes on the plume kit. Too close to the door opening and an internal corner.
One more thing, seems as your going back, for the sake of your reputation please change that hideous black clip for a white one 😱🙄😀😛
One more thing, seems as your going back, for the sake of your reputation please change that hideous black clip for a white one 😱🙄😀😛
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Totally agree with you I run out and it was late so I had to use what I had 🙂 but much appreciated for the honesty
Seems a bit over the top
The tees sound like a lot of time and money for fittings for somebody else’s benefit!
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I actually use the connections too when I do an install as I do not think it's really good to remove a rad to flush. I also haven't got yet the a spirotech adapter so it's fine🙂 don't think it's much over the top but beneficial
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Good to know. So I will stick to the tails though. Are you still using the adapter
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Actually I do exactly the same thing and have done for decades. Finally we have common ground on😉
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It’d be a marvellous world if it was common practice, I’ve done the same for years
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Common ground sound good 🙂
There are still things I would do better but sometimes the price won't allow for all items. I'd install some lever valves below the filter, deaerator and of course below the scale reducer just for the sake of service purposes.
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After talking to you all I added the plume kit and got rid of the black plastic clips🙂
Thanks for all the opinions and advises again.
Thanks for all the opinions and advises again.
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Thank you very much. I love crimping as it is faster, cleaner and eliminates safety hazards. I can also do my works when water is dripping and if I have an issue with turning water off I can also cut live and put a crimping valve on. But as you know everyone likes different things.
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I’ll race you to pipe up a boiler and I’ll do the soldering way.... it’ll be just as neat too😉
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For potential hazardous/ sensitive areas... then yes, crimping comes in, but for everyday stuff
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Everything has its place. I use a combination of soldered and crimping now. Same as using plastic, not my first choice but it has a place
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It's just the way you are trained over the years. I used to solder a little when I started working in UK but i went back to crimping which is what I like even though it's more expensive. I definitely do like rushing my works though as I am not happy in the end with the results. I think it would be fun to have a little race though😉
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I totally agree with you. Plastic is the last resort but sometimes worth doing especially in tight spaces.
Well for speed crimping will win everytime but finished article would both look great
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Thank you KOP... that’s actually true though. It’s not a perfect install then. Next time, I will be more in detail and try not leaving anything to point out. I love when other engineers give honest reviews. I am not afraid of perfection 🙂 I will never reach it but I can reach always a higher level.
Thanks a lot for your input and giving more motivation
I thought you only took the plunger to bogs, bogrodder! and may be rodded a few blocked drains! 🙂😀
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couple of things
gas 1/2 to 22mm tee isnt gas rated
flue needs another clip on it
mac nrv isnt pressure rated and not safe for boilers only overflow
how come no lagging?
gas 1/2 to 22mm tee isnt gas rated
flue needs another clip on it
mac nrv isnt pressure rated and not safe for boilers only overflow
how come no lagging?
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Thank you mate but I'm sure many of us have them as hand tools. I will never change the knipex these are every penny worth as well as the bahco top tools shouldn't be missing in any hand tool bag.
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Appreciate your concern but don't see any problem with the gas pipe whatsoever. 22mm to 15mm very standard. Vailla r has 15mm connection which means I always reduce below the boiler. Flow needs another clip? For 1m of flue? I think that's a little over the top though. Everything is safe and secure installed. What you mean with the mac? How is that not safe ? Nothing is going to happen and if the prv opens it's going safely into the waste pipe. No lagging due to price cant do all for peanuts. Not many people are committed to pay for all materials.
Is there any positive word from you rather than just pointing out? Perhaps you show some of your installs. I don't mind and appreciate your opinion as mentioned above. But give also some positive feedback that would be much appreciated too.
I don't think I did anything wrong. I'm happy with my boiler swap
Did you see the German post I tagged you in the other day Ron? You haven’t responded to him?
I think @ShaunCorbs is saying that the tee on the gas pipe is not safe for gas only water.
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The test point tee not rated for gas
Every 1m or change in direction or a joint
Mac nrv isn’t rated for pressure and if prv opens it will split the nrv as there designed for no pressure / gravity
Lagging is a must for external installs
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No gas markings and tee not suitable because it’s not labelled as no one knows later if someone’s changed the orings etc so will be cut out as it will be classed as not suitable
And gas safe could get involved
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I haven't seen a thing unfortunately... could you tell me how to find the link or the thread?
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You cant see much the markings due to the discolouration. Everything is gas rated with the right o rings. Are the x press fittings rated for 630c to withstand 30min ? Viega fittings are and therefore I use those as they are the best fittings you can get.
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Don't be worried all is done to spec. It's just o e of Shaun's concerns again. He always give out but never props other people in positive way. I am used to it by now and I'm not bothered by it.
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That is gas safe with the right yellow o rings which are highlighted at the site of the fittings. It has a yellow small dot. But you surely know if you swap the o rings too you can use any fitting song you?
Harvest I know what hes on about but does he also support people without pointing things out? Never seen him giving some props to others ... he must be a very unhappy person 😉
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Yes cant find the one I have but it's a similar fitting. However I'm out now getting too much .. not worth the stress
Dont take it to heart Ron our Shaunie will always find something mate he doesn't mean it in a malicious way just has a eye for the slightest imperfection , as long as your happy with your work and abide by the regs and manufacturers instructions then your all good. Cheers kop
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I'm not but don't get me wrong though wouldn't it be better to props sometimes some other engineers? It doesn't come across really good either just point out. If I wanted I could also find stuff which should be changed or amended. However, I'm very happy with the works. I would also change a few things but sometimes the quote doesn't allow for doing better works as I am not going to pay from my own pocket.
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