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It's hard around me at the moment keep getting undercut I priced a job £1200 very low cust said got another price £800 turns out to be a Large company that did the job at cost just to keep the lads busy.I had a look at jobcenter plus there are company's on there paying £10 pH Around me, they expect every ticket under the sun call out rota the lot ffs.
Someone priced a full system at 2k less then I did and 1k less then the next quote, I finish tomorrow at my original price as agreed. Was I too expensive or was he too cheap? Anyway reputation proceeded me and I landed the job
Kooga, Go & talk to him before you do anything rash. See if he will go for a pint, tell him how you feel & let him tell it from his side, keep an open mind. Ask him how the work is priced & what he expects from you.
You may well end up at the same place or you may well see things from each others perspective & come to a more happy working relationship.
In my experience it is the lack of communication that is the down fall & the breakdown benefits neither party.
Talk !!!
You may well end up at the same place or you may well see things from each others perspective & come to a more happy working relationship.
In my experience it is the lack of communication that is the down fall & the breakdown benefits neither party.
Talk !!!
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julesverne
Employees have plenty of rights especially when it comes to things like PPE and not supplying tools etc.
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Ray Stafford
Yes they have the rights, but they can be very hard to enforce, unless the employer does something really stupid.
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Koogatubac
Well got the toilet, basin, shower unit, towel rail all done and tested by 12:30. Dont like being rushed. However shower enclosure defeated me. Was a load of crap! Was a 2 man job, unfortunately customer had to help me, 75yr old, never been so embarrassed in my life!! No good this...
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IDCHAPPY
sounds like plenty of other gaffas. If he wants a poor job at a rushed rate, then its either what you want to do or not. I work for one guy who constant tells me off for doing my job to the letter of the law. He keeps giving me work tho, because all his other lads cant sell a fat kid sweets in a sweet shop.
Please don't take this the wrong way. But sometimes it's good for people to rush you. Years ago I used to go at a leisurely pace and jobs used to take ages but looked brilliant now I can work a lot faster and still do a good job because I worked for a company that piled on the work but I refused to drop my quality. You learn to plan things before you do so you can get the work done quicker. I am now looking to go self employed and I will be more competitive now that I know I can work quicker. (It used to take me 2 days to do a combi swap nothing else like power flush valves etc now to do the same would take me 6 hours including having a chat lol.)
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lame plumber
bit of a chin wag may help, look at things fm the otherside, do you buy kit, tools etc then see the guy poke off or do you give them some time see the outcome and decide to keep them. 2 sides to each story most days
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Koogatubac
Took 6months to get a drill, im not using mine because im not getting any money back from wear and tear. Seems like millsy hit the nail on the head! Supposably the business side isnt making much money, since jobs are taking longer. Going to see how it goes, ive even offered to work for free on saturday to help catch work up but doesnt want me to, and going to catch up next week. Watch this space cheers guys for all input!
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Centralheatking
photograph ALL your work and keep records CHkingQUOTE=Koogatubac;624048]Plumbersmate - you totally right. Theres alot of stuff hes supposed to of done which is legal. However employees have no rights if they have served at a place less than 2yrs
I know whats going to happen. Tomorrow ill work my normal pace, and do a good standard, work till contracted hours (any extra hours i dont get paid) he'll txt at 6 since for some reason he wont talk to me and lay me off. He's most likely only quoted a day to 2nd fix which is absolute bonkers...[/QUOTE]
I know whats going to happen. Tomorrow ill work my normal pace, and do a good standard, work till contracted hours (any extra hours i dont get paid) he'll txt at 6 since for some reason he wont talk to me and lay me off. He's most likely only quoted a day to 2nd fix which is absolute bonkers...[/QUOTE]
Your employer legally should supply and maintain everything. Does not matter about the time you have worked for him/her. They are legally responsible for all health and safety items ( both supply and maintenance of) , including any protective clothing and uniform, they should even wash it for you if needed. They must protect you from asbestos and other hazards in the work place.
If you worked in a factory which is your workplace would you be expected to bring the tools and machinery to work with you? Would you have to pay for you own protection from working hazards? No. Your workplace is the property your working in, legally it's the same. In the real world only large national companies supply hand tools, most don't supply power tools. This has been the way of the trade since time began tbh. Most tradesmen don't mind this as they prefer there own tools and can take them where ever they want.
If you worked in a factory which is your workplace would you be expected to bring the tools and machinery to work with you? Would you have to pay for you own protection from working hazards? No. Your workplace is the property your working in, legally it's the same. In the real world only large national companies supply hand tools, most don't supply power tools. This has been the way of the trade since time began tbh. Most tradesmen don't mind this as they prefer there own tools and can take them where ever they want.
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sheff paul
He sounds like a complete **** (sorry croppie).Jack it in and start working away again,i fyou can stretch to Leeds there is plenty of new build planned for the future
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Dotty
Totally Agree..
If you have been in and out of work for the last 6 years and want this permanent job, It might be worth while trying to explane the concerns you have before you quit. Personally he sounds like a *****.
and you might be up against it, if he's pricing jobs to cheap then texting you saying it's not working out.
Most bosses want to make money out of people they employ and will often push them till somthing is said. Any decent boss knows it's in his best interest when safety matters are a concern.
Fitting shower screens is a valid point, Try to explane that him poppping back for 30 mins to help with the glass screens etc.. is a safer alternative to you struggling with a 75yr old customer. And a cheaper one than you smashing it while fitting alone.
The last thing working in your home town you need is a ex-boss saying you've stolen gear or trashed his van.
So I would stay away from that Idea. Iv'e had bosses I couldn't stand and once I found how to get my point over without ****ing them off, Turned out to be good mates months later.
Anyway:Good luck.
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