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Barry98
went to a burst pipe today , asked me to look at boiler as they thought it needed a service. found this when i asked woman of house who fitted it she replied brother in law 4 years ago. o right whats he do - "oo hes a proffesional plumber" o right is he gas safe or was he corgi . then i get that look through you look. lol
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Speaking of 'where's the prv?' look at this I found the other day on a Worcester Greenstar R25HE. Boiler was about 7 years old. No pipework for the prv could be seen anywhere and someone thought the best thing to stop it dripping is a black iron plug.
I AR'd the boiler and drained some water off as it had gone up to 3 bar.
I AR'd the boiler and drained some water off as it had gone up to 3 bar.
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found last friday, i think once there was a prv pipe before but no one knows what happened to it? 
The other thing is both pipes coming 15 mm to 22 mm service valve and again reduce to 15 mm. Is it because they were lazy to go merchants to buy 15 mm service valve?
The other thing is both pipes coming 15 mm to 22 mm service valve and again reduce to 15 mm. Is it because they were lazy to go merchants to buy 15 mm service valve?
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Billy Bob Bob
they always seem to die when they dont want you to RIDDOR it
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Mike Jackson
It's either that or the customer can't remember who did the work. There's a lot of people out there with very poor memories.
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diamondgas
I put this one up the other month on a different thread but i think its worthy of being here ..... A custards attemt to keep his boiler alive! I think it one of those adjustable chair legs? It flexed the pcb and brought the boiler back to life but thankfuly the diverter was knackered too ----- 
Would have done, but I can only get 2m lengths of tube in my van at a push and don't use it very often. So I don't keep much on the van. I work for a company, not myself, so have a list of jobs to work through and this one was one of many that needed attending. Sometimes I get the feeling they just want to to go and have a look rather than fixing the problem, just to say we've been! Tbh, I have to rebook most jobs I go to that require much more than a room stat, I just don't have the space, nor the time to start doing the work. Usually a fitter goes out and does any pipework that's required and I go round looking at jobs and appliance breakdowns.
Vokera Linea, what a poor quality thing. Got loads of those on one of the contracts I do some work on, I think I have seen more expansion vessel faults on these than anything. How on earth did the customer discover that shoving a chair leg through the case solved the problem?
didnt get any piks but i went to a job today to change vessel and prv on an ariston he 24 mffi, boiler off the wall job, found internal flue not even connected! 1cm gap between the inner joint. phoned ariston and they said it was missing the reducing piece that doesn't come with the boiler on a vertical flue kit. You have to order it seperately. Fitted it and now all ok, flames sat on burner niceley aswell so no easy give aways that there was a flue fault. I know the local company who fitted it aswell. It took me nearly all day rather than the 2-3 hours it should have. Cant believe a gse would leave it like that.
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diamondgas
It wasn't just shoved through, he'd screwed it through so it had made its own thread in the plastic ... Amazing he didn't pop a fuse ........🙂
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Mike Jackson
I've given up being surprised at what so called competent people will do. As far as I'm concerned I just cover my backside now and make sure that I do everything by the book.
ridor came to mind seeing as it messed up my day big style. The company he was from (who i wont mention) have a reasonably good name in our area as well
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Mike Jackson
I'm hoping that it's a redundant pipe and that's their way of sealing off to prevent nuisance calls from lingering smells/
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Mike Jackson
I suppose it will stop smells but not really an approved fitting. I guess the guy didn't have a black iron cap.
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tamz
It would be Jackdaws. They return every year to the same place. They will build a nest 3ft deep in a week.
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Barry98
went to this today , got the call last monday. electric keeps tripping when boilers comes on. hmm ok have you had anywork done yes new kitchen sounds more electrical. got call today had new lecki board still hapening i go check pump could smell it soon as i walked in. sparkys had supposed checked all this even quoted for re-wire
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that' a close one. I came across a main board like that the other day, sparkies checkd it and the wire wasn't even tightened, the tenant(junkie) came back and without us even mentioning it started blaming someone else as he was in the jail at the time, aye no bother ya junkball
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kay-jay
found this today!
attended a main water heater with no hot water, removed cover, pilot was lit, asked custard to turn on hot tap, main burner did not ignite but a gas leak did around the gas valve. when tap turned off big gas smell......
boss saying to custard ...oh this ain't good a leak igniting....im'saying sorry to interrupt but for christ sake boss turn off ecv.....
pics show an inoperable ecv due to pipes to kitchen sink taps immediately in front and behind ecv lever,
a quick scramble for a stubby screwdriver and gas valve on appliance was isolated. a repipe of sink was necessary in order to do a TT, custard lucky boiler did not blow off the wall......
attended a main water heater with no hot water, removed cover, pilot was lit, asked custard to turn on hot tap, main burner did not ignite but a gas leak did around the gas valve. when tap turned off big gas smell......
boss saying to custard ...oh this ain't good a leak igniting....im'saying sorry to interrupt but for christ sake boss turn off ecv.....
pics show an inoperable ecv due to pipes to kitchen sink taps immediately in front and behind ecv lever,
a quick scramble for a stubby screwdriver and gas valve on appliance was isolated. a repipe of sink was necessary in order to do a TT, custard lucky boiler did not blow off the wall......
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diamondgas
Nice one kay-jay! The multi point water heaters have always been a fun on to check out the heart rate! lol
Seriously dodgy meter position though, and too often found these days IMO! Kitchen fitters should be repreted to HSE for installs that restrict access IMO 🙂
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You should have just bent the handle forward. It wasn't catching by much. Saved yourself some hastle. Oh and phoned it in as an AR to the supplier for a rusty anaconda.
something a bit boring, after capping off 4 parts of the gas pipe in this property i, working my way back to the gas meter and testing each time for leaks, i in the end found this on the other side of the gas meter, sods law, looks like its been there 30 year, one side of the joint leaked 3mb in 2 minutes..nightmare but happy to have found it after pulling a the house to bits..
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kay-jay
The pic doesn't really do it justice. There was really no way to move the lever immediately as was required but as some donut had used pushfit on those pipes only took a min to reroute them. Supplier is coming to assess possible relocation of a new meter externally. We then go back to install a combi. Worryingly customer said we were the fourth people to visit since hot water went on blink a week ago. All promised to return but none did. Also none picked up the leak or even asked where meter was..........
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kay-jay
went to the in-laws yesterday. had a quick look at the bathroom job they just had done
nice! he's done a good job tiling the walls tho.........
same property but existing dodgy plumbing from before they moved in....
obviously couldn't decide whether to chase pipes into wall or not so went for half and half...... another quality job lmao,
this was in leeds btw
nice! he's done a good job tiling the walls tho.........
same property but existing dodgy plumbing from before they moved in....
obviously couldn't decide whether to chase pipes into wall or not so went for half and half...... another quality job lmao,
this was in leeds btw
I change my in-laws boiler last year (back boiler to system and flush etc.) my missus old man took two days off work to shadow my every move
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Quality, I cant stand that mate, sometimes, when I get frustrated I genuinly feel like smashing folk that hang over me!
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because i live 60 miles away and even charging normal rates its a bit of a stretch. the job was just tiling (which was a decent standard) and swapping a rad for a towel rail. i think he was a tiler and not a plumber..
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pity you can't weigh in plastic you'd get a fortune lol. plumbers weren't eastern european (sorry stan) were they?
my guess would be someone plumbed in that heating themselves simply to survive the winter. either someone with barely money for food or perhaps squatters. and in either case i'd congratulate them on a good job given the obvious total lack of training or knowledge. that's surely not a bodge because it was never intended to be passed off as proper work, it's functionality and no more.
if i'm wrong then god help us all.
if i'm wrong then god help us all.
This isn't a hall of shame one cos it looks like the pipe's been stamped on. It was in a pub. It's more of a curiosity because it looks like an optical illusion. The elbow looks tight the wall where the feed came from. The pipe doesn't look distortred or thinned in the middle. So a) where has the extra pipe come from to supply the droop and b) how has it not leaked?
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This was the result of minus 18 deg winter 2010 and 3 meter external copper pipe run to outside tap the water had froze instantly on contact with the glass fence bin etcand below is the normal kitchen fitters answer to piping up the hob in flexi
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hmmmmmmmmmm ,why can we use the bad words here .........
that is some installation of a pipe work there ....
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tamz
The pulled bend has straightened out when someone stood on it. The deflection is only about an inch of pipe.
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As tamz said if you look it's straightened the pulled bend in corner nice design for when drunk lol
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Ollydc5
Roofer replacing a roof on our contract just happily went around disconnecting the vertical flues and then leaving them live with the boilers pumping out. Shockingly now action at all was taken and I've since found 2 more :-(
after moving into my house and gas safety check and service had been carried out as part of the buying agreement I found the fire hadn't been serviced for a long long time and after many attempts the spillage test failed. This was a pic of the catchment area and the fire took me 3 hours to clean before it failed lol. The certificate belonged to a rogue agent and 2 weeks later the boiler had to be replaced, lucky I'm in the game
after moving into my house and gas safety check and service had been carried out as part of the buying agreement I found the fire hadn't been serviced for a long long time and after many attempts the spillage test failed. This was a pic of the catchment area and the fire took me 3 hours to clean before it failed lol. The certificate belonged to a rogue agent and 2 weeks later the boiler had to be replaced, lucky I'm in the game
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CMairiD
Did you RIDDOR? We RIDDOR'd on a scaffold company that purposely removed a flue and refitted incorrectly.
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Chrisgy
Installed for a landlord, this so called plumber has gas safe according to the agent. Second boiler of his I have seen and second where the flue isn't sealed on either side. 15mm gas to boiler stepped up to 22mm as it gets to the boiler.
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Wow they've ploughed those holes through, why oh why do these people get away with it?
As far as the flue the clip/bracket it had been removed and left on the lagging. Was a huge contractor that had just started and was doing major building works throughout the county. They squashed the problem in 2 seconds and the thing that upset me the most was the roofer that carried out the work laughed in my face and told me to stop being a drama queen. I filled in the riddor form but never heard anything, such a poor attitude.
As far as the flue the clip/bracket it had been removed and left on the lagging. Was a huge contractor that had just started and was doing major building works throughout the county. They squashed the problem in 2 seconds and the thing that upset me the most was the roofer that carried out the work laughed in my face and told me to stop being a drama queen. I filled in the riddor form but never heard anything, such a poor attitude.
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You may never hear anything. In the case we had with the scaffolder, the HSE contacted us because we owned the house and employed the contractor.
We got asked what processes we were going to put in place to ensure that this didn't happen again on our housing stock. Once that was clarified, the HSE were happy and the case closed.
If you are seeing this happen repeatedly, I'd RIDDOR each and every one. I dare bet HSE will twig it's a pattern and get a bit more serious with it.
We got asked what processes we were going to put in place to ensure that this didn't happen again on our housing stock. Once that was clarified, the HSE were happy and the case closed.
If you are seeing this happen repeatedly, I'd RIDDOR each and every one. I dare bet HSE will twig it's a pattern and get a bit more serious with it.
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Mike Jackson
I've just got back from inspecting the plumbing work that's been recently carried out at a rented flat. The tenant has been given notice to quit because she complained about the quality of work. She has also been branded a racist by the owner of the building firm that did the work because his employees are Eastern European. Apparently they are very good workers but they are certainly not plumbers.
Since the work was done the hot water has been excessively hot, I wonder why?
CQ9R5539 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Parallel pipes!
CQ9R5549 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
No dust sheets or burn barrier used.
CQ9R5551 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Apparently this sort of damage is acceptable when lifting floors.
CQ9R5566 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
A sight for sore eyes.
CQ9R5579 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
This was her mat that was used to mop up a leak, hence the staining and perhaps a little more care could have been taken when soldering.
CQ9R5583 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
When you have a leak apparently it's okay to use the customers measuring jug to catch it. This is after it's been washed.
CQ9R5585 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
The same chaps installed the new kitchen sink when she moved in. Smells from a kitchen sink or normal apparently.
CQ9R5580 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Since the work was done the hot water has been excessively hot, I wonder why?
CQ9R5539 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Parallel pipes!
CQ9R5549 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
No dust sheets or burn barrier used.
CQ9R5551 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Apparently this sort of damage is acceptable when lifting floors.
CQ9R5566 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
A sight for sore eyes.
CQ9R5579 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
This was her mat that was used to mop up a leak, hence the staining and perhaps a little more care could have been taken when soldering.
CQ9R5583 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
When you have a leak apparently it's okay to use the customers measuring jug to catch it. This is after it's been washed.
CQ9R5585 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
The same chaps installed the new kitchen sink when she moved in. Smells from a kitchen sink or normal apparently.
CQ9R5580 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
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Mike Jackson
Not bad workmanship but the customer was told that the entire system needed ripping out and I've managed to get it going again with a new pump and a magnacleanse.
pump by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
sludge by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
pump by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
sludge by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
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Mike Jackson
Checked the ventilation on a static caravan today and found all but 4 vents were blocked.
Blocked by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Others were blocked with toilet roll, newspaper etc. I pulled half a bin bag of debris out from the vents in all. The drop holes under the cooker and water heater had been blocked by carpet as well. All this was despite the large sign warning against blocking the ventilation.
Blocked by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr
Others were blocked with toilet roll, newspaper etc. I pulled half a bin bag of debris out from the vents in all. The drop holes under the cooker and water heater had been blocked by carpet as well. All this was despite the large sign warning against blocking the ventilation.
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Barry98
Went out to a new customer today, barn conversion all plumbed up by the previous owner, plastic pipe almost right up to boiler, plastic oil pipe run externally up the wall, plant room in the roof space, heating pump acting as a secondary circ, ufh everywhere but no timers just on danfoss room stats and the best bit the towel rails on the first floor were all piped from the roof down
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