HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[kay-jay]

This is a beauty. Need to look at it sideways. But it is f&e tank overflow terminating into the cwsc of a fortic cylinder

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[arran197]

Come across a few this week. Today I saw this. This boiler is a Ferroli Modena 80 E, combi and must be 15 years old. Installed in an airing cupboard, the installer obviously couldn't be bothered to fit the correct flue, so just used the old open flue instead and then used some pipe which went about 1 meter in to the loft as an air intake. Oh and the loft had no ventilation either.

This one isn't so bad, but still the installer needs to take a look at themselves in the mirror.

Worcester Greenstar R28HE, firstly for some reason they used a vertical flue rather than going horizontally out the wall the boiler was fixed to. Strange, but they then used the wrong flue outlet adaptor. The one fitted wouldn't allow the exhaust to slide up over the adaptor, which was causing the POCs to spread in to the air intake side and corrode the adaptor clamp. Because the adaptor wouldn't fit up far enough, some wood screws had been used instead of the correct screws. When I replaced it with the right one, the flue hadn't even been pulled down far enough to sit in the adaptor either. All checked now and it's working fine.

 

[Dannypipe]

A friend who's done work for a local Indian restaurant asked me if I could provide a landlords cert for the flat above (owned by the restaurant).

Apart from the fact that they wouldn't let me near the meter to perform a tightness test, the gas valve was corroded, there was a fitting for water on the gas line, the flue was badly installed and the PRV was a bit of rubber tube and the boiler was leaking at the H/E.......it was lovely.

The owner was flabbergasted when I enlightened him....he thought it was fine, and didn't want it switched off as there were kids in the flat and they would need hot water!!

 

[Dannypipe]

This plumber forgot the first rule of plumbing - "Sh** rolls down hill". Also it seems that if a stopcock is knackered, just fit another one (we've all done that) but if that one goes, well just fit another one.....and so on!!

I realise that the first picture the trap has just slipped down, but it shouldn't have been able to, and had been like that for a while. Was full of sludge.🙂

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Come across a few this week. Today I saw this. This boiler is a Ferroli Modena 80 E, combi and must be 15 years old. Installed in an airing cupboard, the installer obviously couldn't be bothered to fit the correct flue, so just used the old open flue instead and then used some pipe which went about 1 meter in to the loft as an air intake. Oh and the loft had no ventilation either.

This one isn't so bad, but still the installer needs to take a look at themselves in the mirror.

Worcester Greenstar R28HE, firstly for some reason they used a vertical flue rather than going horizontally out the wall the boiler was fixed to. Strange, but they then used the wrong flue outlet adaptor. The one fitted wouldn't allow the exhaust to slide up over the adaptor, which was causing the POCs to spread in to the air intake side and corrode the adaptor clamp. Because the adaptor wouldn't fit up far enough, some wood screws had been used instead of the correct screws. When I replaced it with the right one, the flue hadn't even been pulled down far enough to sit in the adaptor either. All checked now and it's working fine.

the ferrolis a mess,but IL was allowed and approved for use on early modenas

 

[stevetheplumber]

View attachment 7484View attachment 7485 This plumber forgot the first rule of plumbing - "Sh** rolls down hill". Also it seems that if a stopcock is knackered, just fit another one (we've all done that) but if that one goes, well just fit another one.....and so on!!

I realise that the first picture the trap has just slipped down, but it shouldn't have been able to, and had been like that for a while. Was full of sludge.🙂

the lesson here is one clip on any length of pipe is useless so remember children ,one clip bad two clips good

 

[arran197]

the ferrolis a mess,but IL was allowed and approved for use on early modenas

You sure about that? Ferroli didn't seem to think so, neither did my technical supervisor.

 

[Destroyer2813]

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A friend who's done work for a local Indian restaurant asked me if I could provide a landlords cert for the flat above (owned by the restaurant).

Apart from the fact that they wouldn't let me near the meter to perform a tightness test, the gas valve was corroded, there was a fitting for water on the gas line, the flue was badly installed and the PRV was a bit of rubber tube and the boiler was leaking at the H/E.......it was lovely.

The owner was flabbergasted when I enlightened him....he thought it was fine, and didn't want it switched off as there were kids in the flat and they would need hot water!!

He got his certificate it just said do not use not all is fine

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

You sure about that? Ferroli didn't seem to think so, neither did my technical supervisor.

yes i am sure,ferroli can be muppeted

 

[arran197]

The guy was pretty adamant that Selkirk Flue should not have been used & only Ferroli flue should be used. To be honest, I wouldn't connect any fan flued boiler to an open flue pipe, even if they said it was ok. There's no seals for a start & under positive pressure you are asking for trouble in my opinion. The flue wasn't installed correctly for an of boiler either & the loft had no vents for the air intake, so it's still I.D. as far as I am concerned.

I don't want to say you're wrong, you seem to be quite certain it can be used, but I don't want to get screwed over for it. On the info I had, the flue was wrong.

 

[arran197]

I can't find any info on the Ferroli with the twin wall flue. I've downloaded the manual, but it doesn't mention it in there, although the combustion chamber door is rounded rather than squared off like this one. It does mention about 2 pipe flue systems, but on shows the terminal as a normal single type.

Has anyone got any further info or documents to suggest this is actually correct & that it is still suitable for use?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

The guy was pretty adamant that Selkirk Flue should not have been used & only Ferroli flue should be used. To be honest, I wouldn't connect any fan flued boiler to an open flue pipe, even if they said it was ok. There's no seals for a start & under positive pressure you are asking for trouble in my opinion. The flue wasn't installed correctly for an of boiler either & the loft had no vents for the air intake, so it's still I.D. as far as I am concerned.

I don't want to say you're wrong, you seem to be quite certain it can be used, but I don't want to get screwed over for it. On the info I had, the flue was wrong.

i cant find any info on it but years ago i came across the same set up but it did have a purpose made adaptor,i checked with ferroli tech at the time and they said it was allowed,personally if ferroli said its not allowed now then i would ID it

 

[kay-jay]

One of my personal favourites......

🙂

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[Destroyer2813]

Wonder how many times thats blocked up

 

[kay-jay]

Wonder how many times thats blocked up

Luckily its not tenanted. Is actually a flat that is inside a local labour club and is provided for the steward to live in. He, however has his own home. Hasn't been lived in for a while though he has been known to crash there after a few too many 🙂

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[SafeGasInstall]

Wonder how many times thats blocked up

None , if it had last plumber would have changed it flexy one

 

[kay-jay]

None , if it had last plumber would have changed it flexy one

None is correct. I am the last (and current) plumber. No action taken because its untenanted (see my last post) i swapped a really manky old alpha boiler and did various other minor jobs. I was told that previous plumber advised that combo of pan connectors ti allow the c/c toilet cistern to sit against the wall lol obviously never occurred to him to build a box 🙂

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[jase158]

One of my personal favourites......

🙂

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this is similar to the one i saw that had a flexi in this position that had ripped. I quoted to replace with fittings as above, customer decided not to go with it and got someone else to do it, I turned up a few weeks later as they still hadn't sorted it and it had been replaced with a tumble dryer style hose, with several holes in it, poo everywhere.....

 

[Barry98]

but it worked before

 

[CES]

but it worked before

Some people should be f****d and burned for leaving jobs like that!..............fried..... I meant fried ....ok?...

 

[SafeGasInstall]

"It worked " = it leaked CO into the room

 

[Guest123]

this is similar to the one i saw that had a flexi in this position that had ripped. I quoted to replace with fittings as above, customer decided not to go with it and got someone else to do it, I turned up a few weeks later as they still hadn't sorted it and it had been replaced with a tumble dryer style hose, with several holes in it, poo everywhere.....

His turds will get dizzy before they reach the drain.

 

[Roger Welton]

Another quality unvented install

 

[Phil]

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How do you turn pic right way up?

Check out this little number, been roped into doing a 'proffesional bodge' for a landlord. Makes me cringe but its a job that needed doing. Bathroom is/was a damp ridden dungeon /celler with zero ventilation or window. 1970's pick suite (staying!), 6x6 contract tiles with a makeshift DPM behind.

I'm using black grout aswell as any white grout won't last two mins, whole house infested with woodworm and the worse shower damage imaginable, shower had to be moved to other side but nowhere to put it as it was the old fireplace 100 years ago.

 

[Roger Welton]

They fitted the bath on the wall!

 

[Dannypipe]

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How do you turn pic right way up?

Check out this little number, been roped into doing a 'proffesional bodge' for a landlord. Makes me cringe but its a job that needed doing. Bathroom is/was a damp ridden dungeon /celler with zero ventilation or window. 1970's pick suite (staying!), 6x6 contract tiles with a makeshift DPM behind.

I'm using black grout aswell as any white grout won't last two mins, whole house infested with woodworm and the worse shower damage imaginable, shower had to be moved to other side but nowhere to put it as it was the old fireplace 100 years ago.

I bet the landlord who's having it done wouldn't live with a bathroom like that, but he expects his tenants to do so.

I once did similar work for the most arrogant man I ever met. He was a landlord of a load of scummy flats and after chatting to him in a pub, he asked my father to do the mainenance on a row of houses (converted into bedsits). They were horrible.

When we refurbed his house, it was the best of everything. The crap that his tenants lived in was like your photo. Just awful. He treated them with contempt, and as they were on low income the dss paid half their rent. Basically what that equated to was that each bedsit was earning him £120 a week, and he had loads of them crammed in. £520 a month. Back then, that was the same as I was paying to rent a nice flat.

He always paid us on time, and gave us lots of work, but in the end we said we didn't want to do the work anymore, and gave it up. I say we, at the time, I just worked for my father. I have some mental stories from those places though. Mad times.

 

[Koogatubac]

staying in a hotel atm in leeds and heres the waste for a marble vanity unit, taped the bend plus falling about 5 degrees to the trap

 

[Barry98]

What hotel

 

[Koogatubac]

Marriott u know it? Taps wher leaking bad too, most likely due to cartridges

 

[Barry98]

Yeah , tried to get in there to do the boiler work stuff I look after the Merrion though not far away. What ya in Leeds for work ?

 

[Koogatubac]

No mate, was for a bday getaway thing with the woman lol quite alot of trouble last night down the town, ALOT of fighting and police, ended up going bk to hotel for drinks however was hotel prices, 2 drinks for £15 :| was wounded lol felt out of place since was quite posh, hotel was spot on mind. Mini fridge had motion sensors, if you even moved them they would charge your for it :O

 

[Barry98]

Normal night in Leeds then

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Too much vodka&redbul&white

 

[Dannypipe]

Had a good one today. Photo's wouldn't do it justice though.

I'm removing a megaflow and boiler, and fitting new unvented & boiler elsewhere. I've fitted the boiler, and powerflushed the system, and was getting ready to rip out the old stuff. There is a bit to do, so as a temporary while the cross over occurs, I planned to leave the megaflow in situ, and heat it via the immersion heater so customer has hot water.

I'm stripping out today, and thought I'd check the immersion to make sure it works. The thermostats goosed, which is probably a good thing. The immersion heater was wired up with 0.75mm flexi cable (exactly the same stuff you have from a light pendant - no earth either!) and to make matters worse, it was wired back to the wiring centre from the HW motorised valve. In other words it went live when the programmer for the boiler called for heat.

Never ever seen anyone do that. Mentioned it to the lads and work and one quipped, "bet her water heated up quick!"

The worse thing is, this is in a VERY posh house. Hence it being a megaflow and not a cheapy alternative. Customer is none the wiser, I will do the new system properly and that will be that. Anyone else ever seen that done before? Who on earth does that? Moronic.

 

[Mike Jackson]

I had a similar one years ago. HA property and I had attended to look at a plumbing problem. The tenant asked me to look at her immersion heater as it hadn't worked since the "electrician" that she had employed to replace the flexes on her pendant drops had fitted a time switch for her. Fortunately the "electrician" had set the time switch up incorrectly and it wasn't bringing the immersion on. He had taken the existing immersion heater flex out of the heater and wired it into the time switch. He had then wired the heater back to the time switch using the same 0.5 twin flex that he had used for the pendant drops. The tenant wouldn't tell me the name of the "electrician" that had done the work for her.