HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[Mike Jackson]

Got to be fast track plumbers who dont really know what their doing diamond 😉

I disagree actually. I've seen time served guys put in stuff like this. It's as much to do with attitude as with training a lot of the time. I worked with fast trackers and time served guys when I was at Iguana/eagaheat/CES and some of the stuff done by the guys who had served an apprenticeship was awful.

A lot of the stuff seen on this thread is not done through ignorance but because people can't be bothered to spend the time and effort to do it the right way.

I spent 2 hours getting a system working properly yesterday. A new rad had been installed by a guy who had served his time on a local firm and went on his own a few years ago. He just teed into the nearest heating pipes and ran plastic to the new rad. This now left 4 rads running off 15mm and I struggled to get the system to work with any sense. Apparently he didn't even test fire after the install, just fitted it, filled it and effed off.

 

[diamondgas]

:iagree: I knew of a good few BG Service engineers that I wouldn't let loose doing pipework! They'd had little experience of installation! Attitude makes a big difference in this game IMHO! Having pride in what you do makes a big difference in the quality of work you turn out I believe 🙂

 

[Leo21]

I would never condone poor pipe work etc. but when your prices are getting slashed and works thin on the ground it's tempting.

 

[TomLane]

Not one I've seen personally, I saw it on Twitter! You'd like this one Colin!

 

[Plumb08]

So if I do a 12 week course will I end up in here 😀

 

[Guest123]

So if I do a 12 week course will I end up in here 😀

Tom that shower somehow reminds of the movie Alien!

Plumb08......nope you won't, as someone said earlier, many time served guys shouldn't be let loose on the public. It's all about attitude, whether you care or not to produce a quality install. Sadly going by all the pictures many can't be bothered. :banghead:

 

[TomLane]

Tom that shower somehow reminds of the movie Alien!

Plumb08......nope you won't, as someone said earlier, many time served guys shouldn't be let loose on the public. It's all about attitude, whether you care or not to produce a quality install. Sadly going by all the pictures many can't be bothered. :banghead:

It does look rather space-like & futuristic! Still doesn't make it right though does it! Utter poop really!

It is both frustrating & embarrassing having to repair another tradesman's sub-standard work! I pride myself on taking great care & paying attention to detail in all my jobs, whether it be budget jobs or bespoke ones! Shame others don't do the same! It's all about the quick buck to them I guess!

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Not one I've seen personally, I saw it on Twitter! You'd like this one Colin!

jus had a good look , that is a bath mixer 🙂LOL

 

[TomLane]

jus had a good look , that is a bath mixer 🙂LOL

Oh yes, so it is! Brilliant ingenuity! Still bloody awful!

 

[Whn1]

Not one I've seen personally, I saw it on Twitter! You'd like this one Colin!

Blatantly straight out of your portfolio Tom.

 

[TomLane]

Blatantly straight out of your portfolio Tom.

Ha, what gave it away?!?

Looks 'cool' doesn't it!

 

[Whn1]

I couldn't work out what everyone was going on about at first but then I noticed how wonky the tiles were.

 

[TomLane]

Clever spot!

So you do have your uses!

Must be your astute feminine side in you coming out again!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Not one I've seen personally, I saw it on Twitter! You'd like this one Colin!

is that a new transformer one of the evil flexycons?

 

[Bunker]

Not atall shameful but made me giggle in a fairly impressed way 🙂 this is in Winchester;

 

[Bunker]

1300litre tank for a 7 bed house. I reckon the base was made by a dry stone wall builder.....shocking.

 

[Whn1]

run out of talons?

 

[PlumbBobBob]

don't let colin see those flexis or are they shower hoses joined together?

 

[Bunker]

My custard asked me to look into why her daughters light switch kept blowing the fuseboard.......

 

[erpkid]

This made me look twice. Property was a converted bungalow. This was the workaround for topping up the new rads upstairs.

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[wheeto]

This made me look twice. Property was a converted bungalow. This was the workaround for topping up the new rads upstairs.

View attachment 12370

I get "invalid link" error message if I click that link.

 

[erpkid]

I get "invalid link" error message if I click that link.

Works this end will try and edit it

 

[erpkid]

I get "invalid link" error message if I click that link.

All done...have uploaded it from the machine where file is rather than remotely which seems to work ok.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Pipe work is mr DIY work I understand , but what is wrong with the light ? I don't know much about electrics , pls explain

 

[Keefy]

This made me look twice. Property was a converted bungalow. This was the workaround for topping up the new rads upstairs.

View attachment 12371​

It's like an optical illusion.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Did you bring to customer atention that they have asbestos cold water storage tank ?

 

[erpkid]

It's like an optical illusion.

I know, it gave me the willies

 

[erpkid]

Did you bring to customer atention that they have asbestos cold water storage tank ?

Yes, all in progress now. I shudder to think what other liberties were taken. These particular bungalows have a very generous loft. The previous owner converted the loft without LBC and the new owner is beginning to regret his purchase. It is a shame as he is in his 80's and is now spending what little he has left making this place safe.

 

[Howsie]

Love a bit of multi colour

 

[erpkid]

View attachment 12382

Love a bit of multi colour

Nice love the un-insulated condensate....at least it is at an angle :winkiss:

 

[lame plumber]

lots of ensuites? re light fitting, try looking for some insulation on the choc block fittings

 

[Bunker]

Pipe work is mr DIY work I understand , but what is wrong with the light ? I don't know much about electrics , pls explain

The wires from the lamp should be tucked through special lugs on the 'rose' which take the weight of the fitting. Where that's not been done the fitting has pulled the live and return down from the rose and they were touching with lots of burn marks in the fitting and light switch! 🙂

 

[stevetheplumber]

View attachment 12382

Love a bit of multi colour

especially the white down the wall where it obviously overflows

 

[Howsie]

Probably connected to a tumble dryer looking at the insides of it.

 

[Whyme]

Not shameful but only went to swap two rads...............stew and dumplins anyone..

 

[Howsie]

View attachment 12422Not shameful but only went to swap two rads...............stew and dumplins anyone..

Curry night.

 

[erpkid]

Curry night.

Dominos

 

[villa_tom]

Found this condense discharge pipe today. Terminated all over the window sill 🙂

 

[villa_tom]

 

[Keefy]

I take it the 15mm copper is the PRV, where does that finish?

Just saw this on Gas Safe's Twitter.

 

[Keefy]

DIY outside tap. Lovely.

 

[SimonG]

View attachment 12797

DIY outside tap. Lovely.

What were you doing up ***bria? 🙂 🙂

 

[Keefy]

What were you doing up ***bria? 🙂 🙂

My teleporting machine must have gone wrong because it only took me 5 minutes to get to that job.

Are they all like that in ***bria or something?

 

[Destroyer2813]

What were you doing up ***bria? 🙂 🙂

And it only took him 4 hrs as no way it could be done in 1 :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Toxic Ted]

View attachment 12422Not shameful but only went to swap two rads...............stew and dumplins anyone..

Adidas samba.....top quality plumbers footware......good man

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

My custard asked me to look into why her daughters light switch kept blowing the fuseboard.......View attachment 12367

the earths are also not sleeved

 

[Kyle87]

Blocking this vent is no real problem. No gas appliances on this side of the big house.

But top marks for the use of a wheetabix box. That's blue Peter at its finest!!

 

[Dannypipe]

Blocking this vent is no real problem. No gas appliances on this side of the big house.

But top marks for the use of a wheetabix box. That's blue Peter at its finest!!

Dear oh dear, the writing is upside down.

 

[Sparkgap]

Yes, all in progress now. I shudder to think what other liberties were taken. These particular bungalows have a very generous loft. The previous owner converted the loft without LBC and the new owner is beginning to regret his purchase. It is a shame as he is in his 80's and is now spending what little he has left making this place safe.

Obviously his solicitor and surveyor didn't do their jobs properly!

 

[Roger Welton]

Shocking one really, I shut this boiler down a few months back as the flue had come apart due to not being clipped at all, l/lord go original installer back to repair (I'd recommended complete flue replaced as damage to inner flue duct at joints). Got a call again today from tenants as smelling this is what I found.



POC still escaping, hence the staining, also spilling into the floor void and into the bedroom above, you can see staining above the skirting! L/Lord has seen sense and whole flue is being replaced next week.

 

[Ollieg]

Riddor

 

[Roger Welton]

Already there

Edit to add not that I expect anything to come from it

 

[tamz]

Shocking one really, I shut this boiler down a few months back as the flue had come apart due to not being clipped at all, l/lord go original installer back to repair (I'd recommended complete flue replaced as damage to inner flue duct at joints). Got a call again today from tenants as smelling this is what I found.

View attachment 12842View attachment 12843

POC still escaping, hence the staining, also spilling into the floor void and into the bedroom above, you can see staining above the skirting! L/Lord has seen sense and whole flue is being replaced next week.

That staining and peeling paintwork is unlikely to be from leaking poc's Roger unless they are burning coal. Did you fga the inlet?

 

[lame plumber]

needs supporting for sure, rest is a building in need of repair. agree with tamz and check for co on inlet air intake to prove seal in flues

 

[Mike Jackson]

How about this for some neat pipework, wouldn't you just love this across your kitchen ceiling.


Pipe by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

And what was the point?


Bonding by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

 

[dave1]

What were you doing up ***bria? 🙂 🙂

Was that the handyman tap that he could do for half the price in half the time.

 

[Roger Welton]

needs supporting for sure, rest is a building in need of repair. agree with tamz and check for co on inlet air intake to prove seal in flues

Agreed building is in poor state throughout, but Definatly spilling poc, didn't need Fga to check for the smell of fumes in there it absolutely stank.

 

[PriestyUK]

1) Ariston Undersink water heater fitted as a oversink which had exploded and water leaking on to electrics (Odeon Cinema)

2) Reports of no hot water, Little undersink water heater, lovely bit of pipe work a? Must of been done by a blagger, found PRV discharge pipe to be bent over, hadn't been in long and made them get the numpties back that installed it, the other one they fitted the PRV discharged in to a open end waste pipe which was venting nice smells into cubicle. (Another Odeon Cinema)

3) KFC - Reports of smell of gas near their deep fat fryers, their lucky the place didnt go boom

Some of the latest ones I have come across.

 

[Whyme]

How about this for some neat pipework, wouldn't you just love this across your kitchen ceiling.


Pipe by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

And what was the point?


Bonding by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

haha the clip choice on the cieling was spot on lol. erm dont meen to look thick mike but whats wrong with that brass bonded fitting with water running through it attached to the 25mm mdpe with water running through it..

 

[Mike Jackson]

That's the main earth bond so it means the rest of the system is not bonded. All that does is earth just the stop tap and is actually more dangerous than not bonding at all. They have turned an isolated metal fitting into a route to earth. The rest of the plumbing in the property is copper or galvanised iron. Should there be a short to the pipework and someone touched the sink and that tap they would have completed the path to earth.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Should have said that,despite a lot of people thinking otherwise, water is not actually a very good conductor.

 

[Killy Bing]

Should have gotten a photo of the unvented i went too, customer complained of steam coming from the taps. it had no prv, capped temp temp relief valve, no pressure reducer, no 2 port on interlink, no expansion vessel and oh yeah!! Being run off a wood stove.....the reason i didnt get photos because i was out the door, in the car and 32 miles away before the kettle boiled....

no i opened all hot taps and put the fire out.

Builder was never heard of.

 

[Whyme]

That's the main earth bond so it means the rest of the system is not bonded. All that does is earth just the stop tap and is actually more dangerous than not bonding at all. They have turned an isolated metal fitting into a route to earth. The rest of the plumbing in the property is copper or galvanised iron. Should there be a short to the pipework and someone touched the sink and that tap they would have completed the path to earth.

Gotcha, bondings a bit of a mine field. seems every spark has a different opinion. the fact all new sevices are plastic doesnt help though because the earth leakage has to go to ground which is like you say through a poor water conducter and in the case of gas meter bonding to nowhere exept back up to a hopefully bonded pipe.. unless pme is involved of coarse.

 

[mickg1]

have a look at this beauty who can figure out what went wrong and why, the cylinder was attached to the pipework

 

[Keefy]

have a look at this beauty who can figure out what went wrong and why, the cylinder was attached to the pipework
View attachment 12908View attachment 12909

No open safety vent? Cylinder stat failed and burst into flames?

 

[mickg1]

yes thats one, check out where the mains feed for the cwst connects to :whatchutalkingabout

 

[Keefy]

yes thats one, check out where the mains feed for the cwst connects to :whatchutalkingabout

Oh dear, that's a good one.

 

[mickg1]

if you look there is a silver screw in the cylinder by where the immersion was, he put this in him self because it burst an then got on to the immersion which almost burnt the cupboard down, i didnt spot that it was under mains pressure straight away, then i asked him what his hot water pressure was like with the cwst being so low, it was only when he replied oh its as good as the cold that i went beck in for a second look....

 

[tamz]

I hope that wasn't put in by any "tradesman".
I really think there is too much information going around these days and people, being skint, have a google around and think they can have a go at most things as it is easy. Only a matter of time before there are fatalities which usually means more regulation for us.

 

[Killy Bing]

Must have been a decent cylinder or low water pressure for it to not turn into a torpedo!

 

[mickg1]

It was an arabic restaurant which usually says it all, with a new owner who's only had it 2 weeks, its like a minefield with botched jobs, need to put an unvented direct cylinder in its place soon I don't think hes going to like my prices for some reason ?

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Should have said that,despite a lot of people thinking otherwise, water is not actually a very good conductor.

Even that I am sure the system is earth good enough to take current away ! Copper pipe for the gas is earthed ! Estical connection to boiler is earthed ! All you need to do to realise if a system is earthed is to do a continuity test from any electrical socket in the house to boiler or any pipe work : on the electrical sockets/spite there is two screws touch one prob on the screw and the other on the copper pipe and that is the test ! One off my mates is a tester and he says even nutral is classed as earth ins way ( I don't know how but this is what told me )

 

[Destroyer2813]

from today's job thats a 8.5kw shower run off a bit of flex spurred of the heating spur, fortunately they didn't use it

 

[mickg1]

finished the unvented cylinder job at 19:00in the Arabic restaurant today had to wait till 22:20 to get paid god loves a trier mate but iam not leaving untill the readies are in my hand, no i will not come back on monday

 

[Dannypipe]

finished the unvented cylinder job at 19:00in the Arabic restaurant today had to wait till 22:20 to get paid god loves a trier mate but iam not leaving untill the readies are in my hand, no i will not come back on monday

That ol' chesnut. Can't believe how bad that old install was. We've got 65 pages of this crappy work, and I can still be shocked.

 

[mickg1]

oh and i found out it was only 3 months old an it was fitted by....... you guessed it a polish guy who they nicknamed leaky jimmy because he always leaves a leak, wtf did you keep using him then ???

 

[mickg1]

View attachment 12917View attachment 12918 from today's job thats a 8.5kw shower run off a bit of flex spurred of the heating spur, fortunately they didn't use it

35.4 amps running through flex cable :dead:, hopefully it was on a 32amp mcb which may of tripped in time, although they are known for running on more amps than they state for quit a while

 

[on31ll]

It was an arabic restaurant which usually says it all, with a new owner who's only had it 2 weeks, its like a minefield with botched jobs, need to put an unvented direct cylinder in its place soon I don't think hes going to like my prices for some reason ?

only had it for 2 weeks ! always the way !

 

[on31ll]

View attachment 12917View attachment 12918 from today's job thats a 8.5kw shower run off a bit of flex spurred of the heating spur, fortunately they didn't use it

cant believe they supplied the shower using a perfectly good flexi !

 

[AWheating]

View attachment 12917View attachment 12918 from today's job thats a 8.5kw shower run off a bit of flex spurred of the heating spur, fortunately they didn't use it

who pookin fitted that? some people. 🙁

 

[on31ll]

I dont know whos to blane though ! The cutomer or the cowboy ! Ok the customer might not understand electrics but from what the shower looks like with flexi etc id say its wrong !

 

[kay-jay]

Ok so here's yesterday

Picture doesn't really do iy justice but the top of the combi boiler was 3" from the wall.

Been like that over a year and has just been passed by bg on a service/safety inspection....

Knew what we was gonna see before looking

Fully disengaged flue !

 

[Atouchofgas]

Ventilation for a 15kw fire on a new build. Think it's just passable!

 

[lame plumber]

View attachment 12422Not shameful but only went to swap two rads...............stew and dumplins anyone..

no gloves and your drains will be looking the same later🙂

 

[Howsie]

Been to look at a job today that's gone south. The "plumber" has walked away with 80k in his pocket and its a shambles. Four bedroom house with a floor standing combi in the loft (MI states has to be inside the living space). UFH has to be on down stairs for the upstairs UFH to work. 28 meters of 15mm CU to the boiler. Pics to follow after a report.

 

[Whyme]

Been to look at a job today that's gone south. The "plumber" has walked away with 80k in his pocket and its a shambles. Four bedroom house with a floor standing combi in the loft (MI states has to be inside the living space). UFH has to be on down stairs for the upstairs UFH to work. 28 meters of 15mm CU to the boiler. Pics to follow after a report.

ooh pics pics pics please.:smile5:

 

[lame plumber]

80k, id retire for a couple of years

 

[Whyme]

View attachment 12964
Ventilation for a 15kw fire on a new build. Think it's just passable!

15kw fire.!!!are they mad..would be cheaper to sit in the car with the heaters on..yeah pass it, nutters.

 

[Whyme]

no gloves and your drains will be looking the same later🙂

ive got to the point where i can eat raw meat, immune systems like a croc.:wink:

 

[on31ll]

ive got to the point where i can eat raw meat, immune systems like a croc.:wink:

Did you type that sat on the bog ?

 

[Atouchofgas]

15kw fire.!!!are they mad..would be cheaper to sit in the car with the heaters on..yeah pass it, nutters.

It's a golf club, that we are working on and that's fire one of seven!

 

[ManchesterGas]

Even that I am sure the system is earth good enough to take current away ! Copper pipe for the gas is earthed ! Estical connection to boiler is earthed ! All you need to do to realise if a system is earthed is to do a continuity test from any electrical socket in the house to boiler or any pipe work : on the electrical sockets/spite there is two screws touch one prob on the screw and the other on the copper pipe and that is the test ! One off my mates is a tester and he says even nutral is classed as earth ins way ( I don't know how but this is what told me )

Neutral and earth both go back to the same point at the source of power. I.e the transformer/generator at the power station. There are different ways of it getting there, i.e. TT, TNCS, TNS.

 

[LUCIALIA]

Good, bad but certainly ugly!

 

[mitchellcook]

bit a black paint jobs a goodun :cowboy:

 

[Leo21]

It'll be interesting when the section between the branch and where it comes through the wall eventually collapse. And even more interesting if they try and use that tired looking wooden ladder to repair it.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

a couple of clips and it'll be fine lol

 

[AWheating]

hopefully it will fall off when the landlord is standing under it 🙂

 

[Bunker]

The vent extension is a nice job too lol

 

[Bunker]

Had a call out yesterday (saturday). New tenants moved in Friday, switched immersion and boiler on. That evening the landing was full of steam and water dripping off the ceiling, doorways etc. The neighbour had popped in and torn off some boxing in revealing the CWST which has been boiling. This is sat above the stairs on chipboard then on 3 steel bars - the heat of the water had flexed the tank, not so visible in the photos. No prizes for working out the cause....

Took ages to find the cold water feed to the cylinder, that too was expertly boxed in, almost invisibly. The box also houses the circ pump - a good find. Sadly I had already drained off the CWST and cylinder as it was leaking badly from the immersion.

 

[lame plumber]

classic it will never need looking at again setup !