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Mike Jackson
I'm with the others on keeping the pipes parallel down the wall and bringing them in and crossing about further down. I used to fixate on using pulled bends to reduce resistance but most combi pumps are well over the top for the systems they are in and endfeed bends don't cause any problem.
With the condense I would have come down from the condensure, used a 90 and put a kick on the pipe with my bender and crossed across in front of the other pipework and used a 90 down into the 1 1/4. To achieve an air gap, rather than use a separate upstand I would just have put the overflow into the 1 1/4 without a fitting.
Obviously I would also have used a decent boiler other than the Worcester.
With the condense I would have come down from the condensure, used a 90 and put a kick on the pipe with my bender and crossed across in front of the other pipework and used a 90 down into the 1 1/4. To achieve an air gap, rather than use a separate upstand I would just have put the overflow into the 1 1/4 without a fitting.
Obviously I would also have used a decent boiler other than the Worcester.
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Rickster123
Not read all the posts so sorry if I'm repeating. Looks like a very tidy install mate. Is it one of your first ones? Looks good. Does it work?! Is customer happy? I'd be proud of yourself! (Apart from the big dirty Worcester thing!)
thanks mike and app, first one solo without anyone else. usually i get told where to put the pipes !!!
customer is happy 🙂
customer is happy 🙂
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Toxic Ted
"were good"..........?...........or just amazing now.
Wouldnt even worry about your pipework at the moment with the carp thats being installed under the ECO banner.
the next door neighbour has just had a look and asked why the 40mm pipe and not just use the 21.5mm outide.
explained about the freezing issues
she asked me to pop round and look at hers.
vailliant with the same position and run....in 21.5mm installed this summer.
horizontal run has no fall to it.
if welsh women are anything like scottish women, i wouldn't want to be her installer right about......... now !!!
explained about the freezing issues
she asked me to pop round and look at hers.
vailliant with the same position and run....in 21.5mm installed this summer.
horizontal run has no fall to it.
if welsh women are anything like scottish women, i wouldn't want to be her installer right about......... now !!!
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Ermintrude
Flue has slight fall built into it. Outlet it at top outside and in center at boiler. If it's less than 1m there is 2.5% fall so don't worry. 21.5 outside is standard practice , 32 and insulation won't fit on saddle bag!
Not on the newer worcester flues I'm sure? The outlet is central, the older kits with the long terminal had a built in fall, as do the vaillants.
that wasn't the intended boiler position, walked in the door and they changed their minds !!! made do with a small extension 🙂
it looks better than some of the shyt ive fitted in the past. 🙂
i would do as other have suggested and keep your pipework straight down. It helps it look neater, it helps you get your spanner on stuff, its easier to lagg the cold, and other pipework. If you have to cross alot over at the bottom of a cupboard or come out the floor in the middle of the cupobard due to floor structure then i sometimes drop a false floor in to make it look neat and save time altering the existing pipes.
keep up the good work!
i would do as other have suggested and keep your pipework straight down. It helps it look neater, it helps you get your spanner on stuff, its easier to lagg the cold, and other pipework. If you have to cross alot over at the bottom of a cupboard or come out the floor in the middle of the cupobard due to floor structure then i sometimes drop a false floor in to make it look neat and save time altering the existing pipes.
keep up the good work!
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Ermintrude
Narr just turn off ur phone when below 3c
Conny running 7m externally in 21.5 sounds a lovely install.
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tamz
Plumb and square. The first rules of pipework :smile:
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kay-jay
yeah I thought that, but then realised I didn't care.
I did wonder why it wasn't all taken off before the boiler was fitted, the boxing to the right was removed prior to me starting.
Looks good Billy.
There's always things we would like to do differently or aren't happy with. I hardly ever look at my work and think it looks great. I always pick up on what I'm not happy with.
It doesn't help looking at some of the work on Facebook and here. Which is top or the class good, and they've obviously had time to think about it.
On the whole, I think it looks good. The condense with all the 45's is the only thing that draws the eye. Well done mate.
There's always things we would like to do differently or aren't happy with. I hardly ever look at my work and think it looks great. I always pick up on what I'm not happy with.
It doesn't help looking at some of the work on Facebook and here. Which is top or the class good, and they've obviously had time to think about it.
On the whole, I think it looks good. The condense with all the 45's is the only thing that draws the eye. Well done mate.
thanks danny 🙂
Why the auto bypass?
Part the way through gas training.....wouldn't that compartment require high/low level ventilation <5 m3 ?
room sealed appliance, only needs air for cooling if MI's call for it is my understanding.
Nice job. Cant say I have much to add over the more experienced comments that have allready been made. I agree it looks congested. Is the system big enough to need the additional ev or is it back up, im sure a read a post of yours that mentioned doing that. Are the 22clips spaced off the wall To allow the 15's to pass behind? I would be pleased with such tidy work.
With room sealed boilers, vents serve only to dissipate heat as not required for combustion. The mi's for the boiler shown dont require them wich makes sense as most modern room sealed boilers are in essence appliances within there own compartment (casing) which is ventilated by the fan drawing fresh air through the concentric flue in to the inner boiler casing.
Required in the MI mate
Believe it says "maybe required".
Depends who you speak to, on the AI course I was told it doesn't but on the phones they say they do
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jase158
just out of curiosity, why the extra expansion vessel?
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jase158
I thought combi's had internal bypass!!
Without trying to hijack this thread king, heres one I did today with cross overs at the bottom. The gas came out the floor in a silly spot but it was an LPG park home so wasnt going to mess around with it underneath.
Sorry about the Worcester, was a sub contract job.
It looked a bit better in the flesh I thought, looks a bit busy in the photo but you get the idea, sort the pipes out ASAP then continue up the wall straight.
Sorry about the Worcester, was a sub contract job.
It looked a bit better in the flesh I thought, looks a bit busy in the photo but you get the idea, sort the pipes out ASAP then continue up the wall straight.
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Ermintrude
Notice all toss bonded excluding the gas? I hate a tidy job. Much better to have pipes all over under boiler IMHO, make u feel less self aware!
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