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i'tl do!

 

[Nostrum]

I've just finished my first intergas install, if I remember I'll take some pictures and let you rip into mine tomorrow if you like. The pipes are straight all the way down, it doesn't show off any particular skill mind as the pipes are dead straight down the wall.

 

[EPH]

When I set out a Worcester I draw a line on the wall dead centre after the jigs been hung, then one horizontally about 200mm from the top and one at the bottom accordingly, then all your clips will at least be level. From your centre line measure and drill 65mm left for your hot clip then 65mm again for your flow clip and lock another 22 clip to that and the condensate will drop straight in. Then the same for the other side at 65mm centres and but lock a 15mm clip to the return pipe and that will be inline for the PRV pipe work. Doing that makes sure everything is parallel, plumb and level. Once your clips are in and sorted the pipe work falls in. Then you can start perfecting the solder! ;-)

 

[tamz]

Don't be over critical of yourself. The more you do the less thinking you do and the less you think the easier it gets. You just go with the flow .
Then again, i've seen me piping something up then thinking i should have done it this way instead but then i think fk it, its fine as it is.
Most people wouldn't know good pipework from a kick in the rse so we really only do it for our own satisfaction and pride in our work.

 

[Nostrum]

Like this? 😉

Yep, nice install. :rockon:

 

[Toxic Ted]

thanks nostrum i see your point 🙂
the guys i did my apprenticeship with....well...... could have as well been suppa plumb !

aha tb i know !! as i soldered up the 22's looking at it i thought........oh balls.

I still look at other peoples work and think that looks and works well so just learn from other peoples installs aswell

 

[Killy Bing]

i don't think it's about ripping into other peoples work, everyone thinks differently and would do it a different way 🙂
it's good to be able to get feedback about what you're doing. the guys i trained with this is far neater than what they ever did..... on my own installs i want to be happy and walk away knowing i've done the best job i can !!

the only way i'll ever get that feed back is from you guys 🙂 so thanks 😀

 

[Nostrum]

Hang on, is that a solder 45 I see?. Tut tut

 

[Killy Bing]

Hang on, is that a solder 45 I see?. Tut tut

as i had none to start with..... i sure as hell hope not !!! where ?

 

[Kyle87]

I plumber is the unknown soldier of all the trades. All the effort we go to on an install and all the bloody customer cares about is if hot water comes through the taps. It's still a self respect thing to have neat pipework.

I'm sick of doing bathroom installs where I go to effort to bend everything I can under the floors to prevent a future leak which may involve ripping a tiled floor up. You try explain this to a customer and the second you mention "leak" they start getting worried and question your skills.

Then a tiler comes in sticks a few bits of ceramic to a wall and the customers like "ooh look at my wonderful bathroom"

I always over complicate my pipework because I'm thinking of how I can best do it. Pipework on show is one thing, but when I'm umming and arrrrring about pipework under the floors you've gotta stop yourself and just put the bloody pipes in!

Like here....

Only 2 equal tees under this floor. Everything else is bent up to the shower and basin.

I'm happy that I've done it this way. But the customer won't give a sh|+

It's the bane of being a plumber/ gas engineer.

You go to all the effort for your own self respect.
Often the customer will never know what you do for them

 

[tamz]

Like here....

Only 2 equal tees under this floor. Everything else is bent up to the shower and basin.

I'm happy that I've done it this way. But the customer won't give a sh|+

It's the bane of being a plumber/ gas engineer.

You go to all the effort for your own self respect.
Often the customer will never know what you do for them

Quicker and cheaper for you tho

 

[Nostrum]

as i had none to start with..... i sure as hell hope not !!! where ?

Not yours, AP's 🙂

 

[Kyle87]

I'd hate to be the guy who has to remove that scale reducer lol

But on a Worcester jig you can leave yourself room behind to disconnect cold and pull it out fully.

Unclip all the cold pipe clips and its only the condense in your way.

I think you'd have enough movement to pull it out enough to get spanner on the nuts

 

[Nostrum]

Not yours, AP's 🙂

TP's ! damn it

 

[tamz]

There are times when i've went to a job that i done 30 odd years ago and thought, fk you were good :lol:

 

[Leo21]

Haven't read most of the posts, though bob on work. Id say your better than 95% of heating engineers. Full stop!
Of course im in the top 5%.

 

[Mike Jackson]

I'm with the others on keeping the pipes parallel down the wall and bringing them in and crossing about further down. I used to fixate on using pulled bends to reduce resistance but most combi pumps are well over the top for the systems they are in and endfeed bends don't cause any problem.

With the condense I would have come down from the condensure, used a 90 and put a kick on the pipe with my bender and crossed across in front of the other pipework and used a 90 down into the 1 1/4. To achieve an air gap, rather than use a separate upstand I would just have put the overflow into the 1 1/4 without a fitting.

Obviously I would also have used a decent boiler other than the Worcester.

 

[Rickster123]

Not read all the posts so sorry if I'm repeating. Looks like a very tidy install mate. Is it one of your first ones? Looks good. Does it work?! Is customer happy? I'd be proud of yourself! (Apart from the big dirty Worcester thing!)

 

[Killy Bing]

thanks mike and app, first one solo without anyone else. usually i get told where to put the pipes !!!
customer is happy 🙂

 

[Toxic Ted]

There are times when i've went to a job that i done 30 odd years ago and thought, fk you were good :lol:

"were good"..........?...........or just amazing now.