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The going rate for most of the companies I've worked for has been 25+ for installers and 26+ for breakdown engineers depending on experience. At the moment I would say your 3k short.

I get what people are saying that the company has to make a profit but there is making a profit and taking the pee.
 
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I see. So the more jobs you do in a day the more you earn. got it. makes sense unless work slows down?

Only do installs mate. Materials delivered to site. Rubbish collected. Making good and soakaways done by their builders. Peachy.
 
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I've recently asked my boss for a payrise. I like working there so don't wish to move on. He surprised me by asking the question 'come up with a way of earning more money and I'll consider it?'

People aren't reading the OP here.

The poster asked a sensible question, and his boss gave him a sensible reply.

With all respect, apart from in pop music or sport, no-one is at the top of their profession at age 25. And to be honest, the OP doesn't sound like the most super-charged, highly-motivated, go-getting individual. (No offence jimk, but you don't!)

I think the boss asked a fair question.
 
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Agreed. No offence taken. I'm happy 9to5 and weekends off. Just wanted to see if I was earning a decent hourly rate and was looking at how others were paid. I think APPs suggestion on price work may be a way forward if I want to work a bit harder
 
I'm not whingeing. Far from it. I just asked for a payrise and was given a suggestion. Just thought I'd ask what might be a fair system of pay.

Is Your boss going to have to enrole you in the compulsory pension scheme or is it too small a business? If it is you could ask for him to put one in place for you. A bonus system for chargeable extras would work. There's not much else you can ask for unless you can increase the venue from your work. Maybe annual increase based on inflation.

23k with paid holidays, ni, sick pay, pension, use of van, overtime, weekends off, no emergency call out. If you want more take the gamble and go self employed, become a specialist, grow the business, become an employer and then have your fitters ask for a pay rise[emoji3][emoji3][emoji379][emoji3]
 
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It's a bit old but gives you an idea.
 
Look at it from all angles. If everyone asked the boss and he gave them all a pay rise he has just knock X amount of his profits. So like most he wants to know what is in it for him. I would still put my case across for a pay rise because I have been here for x amount of years, had minimal call backs etc etc. But then you do need to satisfy his request and it seems the only way is to upsell
 
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In your opinion you are about 3k short.
So the questions are:
- what can you do to increase the company by 30k to increase yours by 3k (10%)?
- what monetry value do you put on a nice 9 to 5 job with no hassles

Only you can answer the second. For the 1st how much of your day is spent doing an apprentices job? You are well qualified, is your boss better using you to manage more jobs doing what your qualifications are for and then getting newbies to lift, carry, first fix, chase out etc etc. Your workload will be more stressful but you will complete more jobs, company earns more money, even with an extra wage and you will be "management" with "management" responsibilty but you can ask for manager wages
 
look at the bright side, you get paid when you have nothing to do or an easy day, i watch the news and get nowt!!
 
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At least you got something jink. But the amounts some of you guys are quoting are crazy. I left a £32,500 job doing installs, maintenance, service and breakdowns (oil, gas and renewables) because they wouldn't up it to 35k
It was easy work but I always went the extra mile for customers and boss.
I'm 25 btw was 23 when on that money.

Now self employed and doing well I feel.

I think there is better out there. Bg pay 28 for fitters, 35+ for breakdown
 
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I get it and thanks for the input. I have looked at BG but there's a lot of shifts. Weekends etc. Is it because of the area you work in that you're on a higher salary £33k?
 
I was in Henley on Thames/ reading area. Personally I thought that was low. Was offered more on an another firm but chose to be my own boss.
 

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