Landlord possibly fake CP12

[Millsy 82]

If there's only one appliance in a rented property then the notification is all that's required, doesn't matter when the current LGSC runs out, as the pipework etc doesn't even actually have to be recorded on the form, although most engineers do a TT and include it on the LGSC, so it's only when the boiler is one year old that a new LGSC will be required
It seems quite a lot,of engineers arent aware of this,

Well you learn something new everyday.

I always fill one out anyway even if not rented just to show that I have checked it etc

 

[julesverne]

Hi Familyshopper

did you check that the guy who fitted the boiler was gas safe registered. i only ask because if you have had co poisoning due to the negligent behaviour of your landlord, i wouldnt trust him to use a registered gas engineer either. you can always ask Gas safe to come and check your boiler installation as my guess it wont even get registered to gas safe.

any chance you could post some pics of the new boiler?

 

[AWheating]

best to do a cert for a new boiler so the landlord and tennant has a reference for the next check and you have a paper trail, etc.....

 

[kirkgas]

AWheating, the notification should be the trigger for next years LGSC, only relevant if it's only the boiler with no other appliances or LGSC will still be in force to cover the other appliances

 

[Reg Man]

An other unreported CO incident.

 

[AWheating]

AWheating, the notification should be the trigger for next years LGSC, only relevant if it's only the boiler with no other appliances or LGSC will still be in force to cover the other appliances

just saying what i thinks best for the engineer and tennant as they both would not have a notification cert. Also plenty never notified anyway of course. As a tennant i would never assume my landlord was on the ball, well apart from collecting the rent 🙂

 

[FunkyOstrich]

Hi, you had a very close call. Report it as soon as you can. Waiting for a new boiler means you are left with no hot water and its getting cold now. People die of CO poisoning regularly in other countries. Strict laws in the UK almost assures that this never happens. In my view this doesn't just happen overnight. I was a gas installer in South Africa and this mostly happens when there is very poor ventilation in your home and an inadequate flue . Your boiler needs O2 to burn and only if the room is depleted of it will it start emitting CO. Your boiler should be vented properly and have a flue that goes straight out to get rid of the CO2. Your landlord should also supply you with carbon monoxide alarms for most rooms. This is the law, not an option for the landlord.

Thank goodness you survived to tell the story!

 

[familyshopper]

An other unreported CO incident.

We have reported it.

We have reported it to Gas Safe who have passed on the details to the HSE. It's now pretty mud out of our hands and will be dealt with as a criminal matter, rather than a personal injury one.
The Gas Safe certificate was overdue by either 1 month or 13 months. Either way, if it had been done properly we wouldn't have got ill and I wouldn't be waking up sweating in the middle of the night with nightmares of when I just watched my son fall asleep with a bad headache the weekend it was happening. If I'd fallen asleep as well I doubt I'd be here writing this now.

The landlord also neglected to protect the deposit, so he's being reported for that too.
He owns several properties.
We can't wait to be out of this place.

Thanks for all your comments.
I'll keep you posted of how it goes.

 

[Riley]

Small mercies. Please keep us informed how this progresses

 

[julesverne]

Thankyou familyshopper for taking the time to reply back. We would be very interested to hear how it goes. Thanks for keeping us posted.

 

[Reg Man]

Thank you Family Shopper for your update. Glad you are all safer now. Good that you reported your incident to gas safe, but really should have gone direct to HSE. They are the government body who have the tools for enforcement. You landlord sounds like he needs to be taken to task, the HSE have the power. What region do you live in?

 

[Black]

glad you and family are all ok, my advice is from now on if you move into any new property weither rented or not, enquire about gas safety record well before it is too late

 

[Matty Birch]

bang out of order, by law landlord has 28 days to give you safety records from issue date, can't turn up with it later on down the line when there's a problem, he's obviously neglected his duties that are there for a reason and in doing so has put your families lives at risk, Sue him for all the trouble he's caused, start with the hse