doesnt say the standard will be high tbh anyone these days can get gas safe 6 week course and 4-6K and your gas safe
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doesnt say the standard will be high tbh anyone these days can get gas safe 6 week course and 4-6K and your gas safe
i really do appreciate all the replies dont get me wrong, last thing im wanting is not wakening up 1 day (not funny) and a sys thats not going to come back and bite when/if it does breakdown because of sludge, his reviews are going back to 2009 and been doing this for over 14 years inc doing landlords certs, fully insured for £1mill,
ive had 4-5 prices but all been with them supply the unit, so i am just paying for labour only
ive had 4-5 prices but all been with them supply the unit, so i am just paying for labour only
how much have they been for ( the other prices)
im getting this all in at about 2100issh, closest i got was from an approved wb installer 2500 , no new rads and using wb controls, im using wireless plumbing centre thermosat programmer(£52), i agree it is cheap the fitting im more worried about the flush that might be not getting done, which he said it will be
i can garatee you wont be having a proper power flush done, will be a system flush either using chems on there own or via somthing like the adey mangaclense but if your changing all the rads this isnt really needed
you can do some prep work if you want (by flushing the rads out first using cold mains water) and adding some cleaner to the system and run for a week or two
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Masood
He's told you he's doing a hot & cold flush.
That is an approved method of flushing according to BS7593:2006, but it is not a powerflush. Hot and cold flush is getting the system hot (after the new boiler is fitted, normally), then draining it down, then running mains water through it. The thinking being that hot water dissolves flux and other residues, then mains pressure / flow rate gets rid of any sediment.
Powerflushing is a very different beast, takes a lot longer and is much more thorough.
That is an approved method of flushing according to BS7593:2006, but it is not a powerflush. Hot and cold flush is getting the system hot (after the new boiler is fitted, normally), then draining it down, then running mains water through it. The thinking being that hot water dissolves flux and other residues, then mains pressure / flow rate gets rid of any sediment.
Powerflushing is a very different beast, takes a lot longer and is much more thorough.
thanks for that info shaun, can you all confirm that the powerflush wont really be req if new rads are going to be installed, i would rather pay a bit more and get it done than bite me in years to come
also bg fitted a spirotech mb3 about a year ago to my sys which will also be added to the new sys , as for draning the sys well im the world worst for diy thats why i leave it for you guys, i could stick some f3 in that tank but watching it on youtube is not my idea of fun
so a sys flush ok with new rads??? my current sys is really banging away and has been for a few years so unsure if the pipes are bunged up or its the boiler and 1 rad is dead to the world
also bg fitted a spirotech mb3 about a year ago to my sys which will also be added to the new sys , as for draning the sys well im the world worst for diy thats why i leave it for you guys, i could stick some f3 in that tank but watching it on youtube is not my idea of fun
so a sys flush ok with new rads??? my current sys is really banging away and has been for a few years so unsure if the pipes are bunged up or its the boiler and 1 rad is dead to the world
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Masood
Where did you get that list? Gas Safe's website does not list dates. The ID card does, but shows the annual renewal date. If that's from his card, he's shown you an old card. Is his registration still valid?
My thoughts exactly
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Masood
sorry to say i cant say without seeing the system / water quality
but are all your rads heating up (top to bottom same temp etc)
ive got his dates from the mybuilder site he is on which he can put in himself i think, but the gas safe is confirmed on there site
only 1 rad is cold (1st rad on the sys i think), im going to call him on tues to inform him that i am wanting a proper powerflush and not just some hot and cold
and from co durham , our water looks clean but its cold this time of year lol
only 1 rad is cold (1st rad on the sys i think), im going to call him on tues to inform him that i am wanting a proper powerflush and not just some hot and cold
and from co durham , our water looks clean but its cold this time of year lol
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i take it them dates were when he passed the test and not his expiry date
you could ask him for some phone numbers of his past works (work hes done for clients) and ring them up and ask them etc
youve got me worried now and its xmas day ahhhh
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Masood
North London somewhere mate, probably around Enfield (ish).
riley i really do appreciate the help & advice here its gold dust and you guys taking time out from work espesh on xmas day, ive now got all the equipment in the house waiting to be installed, i already sent 1 cowboy running, this is a minefield and wanting the sys to last for years to come
What happened?
i know you cant judge a book by its cover but 2 guys came (self employed), and just looked at them and said to myself NOWAY, anyway came in and started asking me about how big the gas pipe was where the route is i said ive no idea then saying the gas pipe needs to be re routed outside the house on the wall (yuck) then telling me a hosepipe flush is good as anything then all work to be done in 1 day (without new rads) to keep the price down they said a idealboiler would keep it cheap, just everything about them they were wanting my cash and away they go in the night, then txt me 3 times asking if they could have the job (deleted there number)
anyway u guys have put doubts in my head with the guy ive hired, but for sure its going to get a powerflush and not just hot&cold thats for sure
in co durham
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Masood
Sensible, conscientious, professional questions. You're having a high powered boiler, you need to ensure the gas supply pipework is sufficiently sized. It's much less disruptive to run a pipe outside than it is to disturb floors and / or chase walls for a new pipe run. I'd fit an Ideal Vogue over a Worcester any day. I think your snap judgement may have been a touch hasty... 🙂
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Masood
That's SimonG's manor. Very knowledgable and experienced engineer. But I very much doubt whether he'd do the job for £400. Quality costs...
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