new installation

[northernstar]

im getting this all in at about 2100issh, closest i got was from an approved wb installer 2500 , no new rads and using wb controls, im using wireless plumbing centre thermosat programmer(£52), i agree it is cheap the fitting im more worried about the flush that might be not getting done, which he said it will be

 

[ShaunCorbs]

im getting this all in at about 2100issh, closest i got was from an approved wb installer 2500 , no new rads and using wb controls, im using wireless plumbing centre thermosat programmer(£52), i agree it is cheap the fitting im more worried about the flush that might be not getting done, which he said it will be

i can garatee you wont be having a proper power flush done, will be a system flush either using chems on there own or via somthing like the adey mangaclense but if your changing all the rads this isnt really needed

you can do some prep work if you want (by flushing the rads out first using cold mains water) and adding some cleaner to the system and run for a week or two

 

[Riley]

I'm not telling you to spend money for the sake of it mate but what you've been quoted doesn't add up

 

[Masood]

He's told you he's doing a hot & cold flush.

That is an approved method of flushing according to BS7593:2006, but it is not a powerflush. Hot and cold flush is getting the system hot (after the new boiler is fitted, normally), then draining it down, then running mains water through it. The thinking being that hot water dissolves flux and other residues, then mains pressure / flow rate gets rid of any sediment.

Powerflushing is a very different beast, takes a lot longer and is much more thorough.

 

[northernstar]

thanks for that info shaun, can you all confirm that the powerflush wont really be req if new rads are going to be installed, i would rather pay a bit more and get it done than bite me in years to come
also bg fitted a spirotech mb3 about a year ago to my sys which will also be added to the new sys , as for draning the sys well im the world worst for diy thats why i leave it for you guys, i could stick some f3 in that tank but watching it on youtube is not my idea of fun

so a sys flush ok with new rads??? my current sys is really banging away and has been for a few years so unsure if the pipes are bunged up or its the boiler and 1 rad is dead to the world

 

[Riley]

If you don't get a proper flush. By the sound of it your new boiler is gonna be blocked quickly

 

[Masood]

i wont be paying him anything until the job has been completed, ive done loads and loads of research watching powerflushes reviewing everything online, went over and over done my homework for sure so i know what the powerflush looks like, i think i need a baileys now
and here is qualifications
GAS SAFETY REGISTER ******

NIC CERTIFICATION ( UN-VENTED HOT WATER STORAGE SYSTEMS)

CITB

CPA1 (Combustion Performance Analysis) 31/03/14
CCN1 (Domestic Natural Gas Safety) 30/03/14
HTR1 (Gas Fires and Heaters) 30/03/14
CEN1 (Central Heating Boilers 70KW) 31/03/14
CKR1 (Gas Cookers) 30/11/10

Where did you get that list? Gas Safe's website does not list dates. The ID card does, but shows the annual renewal date. If that's from his card, he's shown you an old card. Is his registration still valid?

 

[Riley]

Are those dates from his card?

My thoughts exactly

 

[Masood]

My thoughts exactly

Great minds.... 🙂

 

[ShaunCorbs]

thanks for that info shaun, can you all confirm that the powerflush wont really be req if new rads are going to be installed, i would rather pay a bit more and get it done than bite me in years to come
also bg fitted a spirotech mb3 about a year ago to my sys which will also be added to the new sys , as for draning the sys well im the world worst for diy thats why i leave it for you guys, i could stick some f3 in that tank but watching it on youtube is not my idea of fun

so a sys flush ok with new rads??? my current sys is really banging away and has been for a few years so unsure if the pipes are bunged up or its the boiler and 1 rad is dead to the world

sorry to say i cant say without seeing the system / water quality

but are all your rads heating up (top to bottom same temp etc)

 

[Riley]

Indeed mate indeed. Sorry I know it's off topic. Where in the country is your new venture starting??

 

[northernstar]

ive got his dates from the mybuilder site he is on which he can put in himself i think, but the gas safe is confirmed on there site

only 1 rad is cold (1st rad on the sys i think), im going to call him on tues to inform him that i am wanting a proper powerflush and not just some hot and cold
and from co durham , our water looks clean but its cold this time of year lol

 

[Riley]

The point being those dates are not valid. Does he have all the current skills you require

 

[northernstar]

The point being those dates are not valid. Does he have all the current skills you require

i take it them dates were when he passed the test and not his expiry date

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you could ask him for some phone numbers of his past works (work hes done for clients) and ring them up and ask them etc

 

[Riley]

Well for example registration lasts 5 years. His cookers are out of date, why leave it on the internet. Makes you wonder what else might be afoot

 

[northernstar]

Well for example registration lasts 5 years. His cookers are out of date, why leave it on the internet. Makes you wonder what else might be afoot

youve got me worried now and its xmas day ahhhh

 

[Riley]

Sorry buddy. It may be legit but I HATE seeing people get scammed

 

[Masood]

Indeed mate indeed. Sorry I know it's off topic. Where in the country is your new venture starting??

North London somewhere mate, probably around Enfield (ish).

 

[northernstar]

Sorry buddy. It may be legit but I HATE seeing people get scammed

riley i really do appreciate the help & advice here its gold dust and you guys taking time out from work espesh on xmas day, ive now got all the equipment in the house waiting to be installed, i already sent 1 cowboy running, this is a minefield and wanting the sys to last for years to come