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What you need is when you click on the central heating forum is a notice prior opening the page saying only cylinders ,pumps,rads etc to be posted here
Like all businesses these days it is all about managing the risks, if there is a real threat of prosecution / claim from people receiving advice on here that can not be protected buy disclaimer or insurance then we might as well all pack up now & close it all down.
If there is a risk of a claim on the GS side then it will be the same across all the other forums & as my name is up there & I am not that difficult to find I think I might stop posting !!!
If there is a risk of a claim on the GS side then it will be the same across all the other forums & as my name is up there & I am not that difficult to find I think I might stop posting !!!
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Billy Bob Bob
be careful what you post gas safe sponsor us,finding you is much easier than you think you have a ip address a registered phone line) if someone died as a direct result of advice given on this forum what would you tell the prosecutor if your name was in the frame?this is why we close threads that contain such posts if you want to talk gas join the appropriate forum
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Just add a bit more info in the subtext under 'Central Heating Forum' on the main board explaining what advice you can and cannot expect to be given. If a new thread looks like it's heading towards a potential DIY no-no then anyone can just quote or link to the guidelines in the subtext.
If they get in a hissy fit about it then it'll be there problem for not reading it first. Doesn't matter what you name a forum category there's always going to be the demanding type who rush straight in. It's just one of those inevitable things that can't be 100% controlled.
If they get in a hissy fit about it then it'll be there problem for not reading it first. Doesn't matter what you name a forum category there's always going to be the demanding type who rush straight in. It's just one of those inevitable things that can't be 100% controlled.
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Ray Stafford
You can worry too much about these things.
For all the urban myths about people suing for this or that, does anyone know of a single case of such litigation?
I suggest asking Dan what his position is. As the forum publisher he is probably at greatest risk, although to be honest, I would evaluate that risk as being vanishingly small.
Use common sense, don't encourage people to tackle dangerous things, be aware that the thread may be read by a muppet in 2 years time, but don't overreact.
In another part of my life, I have to give safety advice in a sport where people are trying to hit each other. We had a similar liability panic a few years ago, and we disappeared up our own backsides. Then we did some rational risk analysis, and realised that the biggest cause of injury was still the same as it always had been. And that injury cause was failure to warm up before a bout, causing muscle strain. We spent all that time worrying about something that never happened, and ignored the low level thing that really happenend every day.
For all the urban myths about people suing for this or that, does anyone know of a single case of such litigation?
I suggest asking Dan what his position is. As the forum publisher he is probably at greatest risk, although to be honest, I would evaluate that risk as being vanishingly small.
Use common sense, don't encourage people to tackle dangerous things, be aware that the thread may be read by a muppet in 2 years time, but don't overreact.
In another part of my life, I have to give safety advice in a sport where people are trying to hit each other. We had a similar liability panic a few years ago, and we disappeared up our own backsides. Then we did some rational risk analysis, and realised that the biggest cause of injury was still the same as it always had been. And that injury cause was failure to warm up before a bout, causing muscle strain. We spent all that time worrying about something that never happened, and ignored the low level thing that really happenend every day.
If gas safe sponsor this forum then i presume they get full access ? do they give any input to the mods??
Being nosey now lol
Being nosey now lol
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Barry98
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Dotty
Unfortunately we're living in an increasingly more litigious society. It may never happen, i hope it doesn't, but the possibility is always there that a fatality could happen and this forum and it's members be blamed.
All we can really do is try to keep the forums as safe for you without compromising the advice being given.
Don't know about you lot but Mama Croppie's little soldier is far too pretty to be lifting the soap in the shower for Mr Big!
All we can really do is try to keep the forums as safe for you without compromising the advice being given.
Don't know about you lot but Mama Croppie's little soldier is far too pretty to be lifting the soap in the shower for Mr Big!
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Barry98
Well if asked, of course, I would tell them that when I joined this forum there was no warning or indication that if wrong or in correct information given by me, could come back & bite me on the bum & as such I would be issuing a counter claim against this forum for not protecting my interest while I was giving away free information.
As for GSR that is one of my problems when you get vested interests involved ! as it is run by a private company with there own interest in maintaining a close shop I will alway be suspicious when they are telling me what I can & can't do.
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Ray Stafford
We have a similar situation in health and safety issues. All of us who employ people can be picking up the soap with croppie for something that we had nothing to do with, if a court decides we didn't do enough to anticipate and prevent it.
The only way to be 100% safe is to shut your business down. Since that is impractical, you set some basic rules, write them down, and set up a system or two to monitor. Then you stop worrying and get on with it.
The only way to be 100% safe is to shut your business down. Since that is impractical, you set some basic rules, write them down, and set up a system or two to monitor. Then you stop worrying and get on with it.
I have seen many boiler cases left ill fitted by sparkys, screws missing etc.... so i totally understand the stance of only gsr engineers should remove a case. You also have to question any gas safe engineer who leaves the gas onto an unwired (uncommissioned) boiler so the sparks can fire it up when hes done 🙁 . It is afterall the sparks thats breaking the gas regs when he/she removes the case, but then most sparks dont know there own regs.
I like worcester idea of sticking a flying lead on the boiler and there new compact has been designed so you can wire it with the case on. Maybe the way forward for all.
I like worcester idea of sticking a flying lead on the boiler and there new compact has been designed so you can wire it with the case on. Maybe the way forward for all.
Think you will find it is the person who connected the gas to the appliance that broke the Law not the block that turned it on what was that about not knowing the reg's ? Very sorry AW opened yourself for that one LOL
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